im starting to like max kellerman more....

[TredKiller]

Sooner or later, one of these computer-thugs will get to you. Lol.

yo who you got, cotto or pac?

[Vladimir303]

Calderon... is my last name? Wow, you sure do know how to investigate!

I also rocked a Hopkins sig. Don't most Puerto Ricans resent Hopkins? LMAO. Man, even your conspiracy theories suck.

Are you so desperate for online victories that you take a little thing like me saying Calderon being your "name" and take it out of context when you know damn well I meant your user name.

I don't believe in calling fighters warriors, not usually. No. Kassim Ouma was a warrior, and he took offence to the term as well.

I'm not concerned with general opinion when it comes to this matter. A matter that is genuinely life or death.

Fighters fight for money. The sooner people realize this, the sooner fighters will be safer, we'll get better fights and we'll have more honesty within the sport.

1. How does quitting at the first sign of weakness make the sport better?

2. Fighters don't die in the ring? There is no chance of a fighter dieing in every fight?

3. So all soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan just fight for their country because they're patriotic. Has nothing to do with the paycheck that comes along with it huh?

When people call fighters warriors, it comes from the term War in a fight. So now we shouldn't call great fights wars anymore because it doesn't compare to millitary soldiers with weapons?

[mathed]

I have never disliked him, but I totally disagree with his assessment that great fighters are willing to die in the ring.

No... DUMB fighters, who AREN'T real men, are willing to do it.

Smart fighters realize what happens when you take a beating in too many fights and either end up with Parkinson's or brain damage

[spittle8]

I'm not crying. I'm stating facts.

Ortiz quit. Fine. You weren't in the ring and you didn't fight that guy. So.. it's simple. **** off. It's quite plain as day. You don't get it, I understand.

For the record, that boxing warrior bull**** is lame. Warrios fight to protect, fighters fight to collect. BIG ****ing difference.

Calling someone trying to make money a warrior, is disrespecting people who have died for their country.

Cry me a river? LMAO. Then you PMS about how I disrespected fighters who you must REALLY feel the need to protect.

Be gone, *****.

True, but some fighters are also warriors. LaMotta for example, he fought for more than money, but pride and respect.

[keepthemhandsup]

Smart fighters realize what happens when you take a beating in too many fights and either end up with Parkinson's or brain damage

ali should stop fighting after fighting fraiser a third time...

[THe TRiNiTY]

[QUOTE=Vladimir303;5587589]

Calderon... is my last name? Wow, you sure do know how to investigate!

I also rocked a Hopkins sig. Don't most Puerto Ricans resent Hopkins? LMAO. Man, even your conspiracy theories suck.

Are you so desperate for online victories that you take a little thing like me saying Calderon being your "name" and take it out of context when you know damn well I meant your user name.



1. How does quitting at the first sign of weakness make the sport better?

2. Fighters don't die in the ring? There is no chance of a fighter dieing in every fight?

3. So all soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan just fight for their country because they're patriotic. Has nothing to do with the paycheck that comes along with it huh?

When people call fighters warriors, it comes from the term War in a fight. So now we shouldn't call great fights wars anymore because it doesn't compare to millitary soldiers with weapons?

1. It doesn't. I didn't say that. Ortiz was dropped twice, over six rounds with a thudding puncher taking it to him. The FIRST sign, would have been well before the second KD and cut and bruised eyes.

2. There's always a chance. The chance increases with the circumstances. Always a chance you'll die in a plane crash. Chance increased when one of the wings is faulty.

3. My friend is in the Air Force, and he has to lie about his income, because the government doesn't want military personnel to be on welfare. Do they do it for the job security in most cases? Of course. However, countires like North Korea forces all citizens to fight, whether they choose to or not. And if you think that soldiers are being paid what they deserve, you're a douche bag and this conversation can end.

I call great fights, great fights. Did they go to war in a sense. On a person-to-person level? Sure. However, the term warrior to me, is strickly for those who are defending something. Not fighting for a million dollar check.

[THe TRiNiTY]

True, but some fighters are also warriors. LaMotta for example, he fought for more than money, but pride and respect.

Pride and respect? Then he shoud have given up his paychecks. He wouldn't have needed a manager or agent, because the money wouldn't have mattered.

Did he fight for those things? Sure, why not.

Was money the first priority? Without a shadow of a doubt.

[THe TRiNiTY]

I hate when these fans all claim fighters should fight to the bitter end. Prove themselves as warriors.

Next thread.... 'It's so sad what's happened to Muhammed Ali, and how his condition is. Such a shame. Too many wars.'

[THe TRiNiTY]

yo who you got, cotto or pac?

Honestly, my gut is telling me Manny Pacquiao by a later round stoppage. But, Cotto could 'surprise' people. He's a very skilled fighter. However, as of right now.....

Pacquiao, by late stoppage.

[Vladimir303]

[QUOTE=..Calderon...;5587617]

1. It doesn't. I didn't say that. Ortiz was dropped twice, over six rounds with a thudding puncher taking it to him. The FIRST sign, would have been well before the second KD and cut and bruised eyes.

2. There's always a chance. The chance increases with the circumstances. Always a chance you'll die in a plane crash. Chance increased when one of the wings is faulty.

3. My friend is in the Air Force, and he has to lie about his income, because the government doesn't want military personnel to be on welfare. Do they do it for the job security in most cases? Of course. However, countires like North Korea forces all citizens to fight, whether they choose to or not. And if you think that soldiers are being paid what they deserve, you're a douche bag and this conversation can end.

I call great fights, great fights. Did they go to war in a sense. On a person-to-person level? Sure. However, the term warrior to me, is strickly for those who are defending something. Not fighting for a million dollar check.

First off, just becaue you have a friend in the air force, doesn't mean other don't. I too have a friend who was in Iraq, and he got paid some nice coin for his services, he was lucky too because they didn't put him in much harms way.

Second, if the term "warrior" is all that you don't agree with, because it should strictly be used for people defending their country, that would be fine. But you originally said that you approve of quitting in fights and consider fighters going out on their shield dumb. So that's that.

On a sidenote: Fighters are defending something, themselves. It's a violent contact sport.