lol I am young, I don't deserve to get beat up like this "Ortiz"

[oc9979]

I'm ignorant and you just said Mexicans quit the most. Are you ****ing serious?

I like you, but you take **** too far. Have certain Mexican fighters quit recently? Sure.

Oscar De La Hoya
Victor Ortiz
Possibly Jorge Arce

Historically, however, they have no higher ratio then any other group of fighters. Probably less then the average, as a matter of opinion.

What I said was that Puerto Rico has no more BIG stars then Mexico.

Cotto/Antonio Margarito (like it or not, he's still popular. Whether I care for him as a fighter/person doesn't matter.)

Lopez/Juan Manuel Marquez

Ivan Calderon/Marquez-Vazquez.

You can't tell me that Puerto Rico has more stars. I'm not even saying they don't have the same amount. Simple facts.

put their loses together. you get double digits

cotto, ivan, and lopez= 1 lost
JMM, Marquez, Vazquez, and Margarito= 19 loses

[The Underboss]

He doesn't deserve to get beat up like that? Huh?!? Dude better find a new profession or start running like Fraud Gayweather.

Poet

''like fraud gayweather''.

[RightCross94]

i am not thrilled that he quit but i wont crucify him for it

i dunno what he means by "i dont deserve to get beat up like this" he's a boxer.....

[The Underboss]

he has no heart.

[Aracibo04]

dont need to prove it.

can't prove it... both cotto and ortiz are quitters.

You can be jailed for circumstantial evidence. No need for hard evidence.

I understand you and others that want hard evidence don't want to consider all the circumstantial evidence and thats fine.

Its good enough for me that he was caught before doing it to another person.
I guess the people that always say "can't prove it" have no malice.

[hawk7]

I watched the fight on youtube...

the guy quit like a baby, pretty sad those fights get so much hype.

:wank:

[cottothechamp]

ortiz quit like a *****, truly not a mexican warrior

[Boricua6]

I'm ignorant and you just said Mexicans quit the most. Are you ****ing serious?

I like you, but you take **** too far. Have certain Mexican fighters quit recently? Sure.

Oscar De La Hoya
Victor Ortiz
Possibly Jorge Arce

Historically, however, they have no higher ratio then any other group of fighters. Probably less then the average, as a matter of opinion.

What I said was that Puerto Rico has no more BIG stars then Mexico.

Cotto/Antonio Margarito (like it or not, he's still popular. Whether I care for him as a fighter/person doesn't matter.)

Lopez/Juan Manuel Marquez

Ivan Calderon/Marquez-Vazquez.

You can't tell me that Puerto Rico has more stars. I'm not even saying they don't have the same amount. Simple facts.

Calderon - if Puerto Rico has 2 or 3 Superstars at any given time - I'LL TAKE IT...pretty damn good for a 35X100 sq mile island compared to a country 10 times its size...

My point to all this has nothing to do with how many Mexican Boxing stars there are compared to PR stars or even which group has "quit" more, etc.

Bottomline - MANY, if not all, who considered Ortiz the next great "warrior" have to be hurting - more so, this loss obliterates any "warrior" persona his fans took for granted just cause he's a proud Mexican-American. I like the kid personally...we'll see how he recovers from this...

[Boricua6]

You can be jailed for circumstantial evidence. No need for hard evidence.

I understand you and others that want hard evidence don't want to consider all the circumstantial evidence and thats fine.

Its good enough for me that he was caught before doing it to another person.
I guess the people that always say "can't prove it" have no malice.

VAYA!! True True...

[Eric Holder]

I'm ignorant and you just said Mexicans quit the most. Are you ****ing serious?

I like you, but you take **** too far. Have certain Mexican fighters quit recently? Sure.

Oscar De La Hoya
Victor Ortiz
Possibly Jorge Arce

Historically, however, they have no higher ratio then any other group of fighters. Probably less then the average, as a matter of opinion.

What I said was that Puerto Rico has no more BIG stars then Mexico.

Cotto/Antonio Margarito (like it or not, he's still popular. Whether I care for him as a fighter/person doesn't matter.)

Lopez/Juan Manuel Marquez

Ivan Calderon/Marquez-Vazquez.

You can't tell me that Puerto Rico has more stars. I'm not even saying they don't have the same amount. Simple facts.

Calderon's not a star, he can't even get his fights on tv(which is a shame because he's a pretty damn good fighter)