..TRUE or FALSE: Fans Don't Like Intelligent Heavyweights...

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  • The Dreamer
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    #11
    Originally posted by ..Calderon...
    For the record, I'm not talking about Wladimir Klitschko. I'm talking about Lennox Lewis, if anything.
    "Meanwhile, Lewis' forays into generic boxing misbehavior seem forced. Lewis may be several times the fighter Mike Tyson is, but when it comes to sociopathic antics, he'll always run a distant second to Iron Mike. Much as Larry Holmes was castigated for Not Being Ali, Lennox gets static for Not Being Tyson. As both men discovered, demolishing their respective bêtes noirs in the ring did little to change that notion.

    Boxing is a sport where misanthropy is more necessity than vice, and introspective types are seldom embraced by fans. Floyd Patterson and Archie Moore valued intelligence in and out of the ring but wound up being pitied as much as lauded. In an era when only hard-edged athletes cut through the media haze, Lewis sips tea and plays chess. Without plentiful tattoos or a penitentiary stare, he doesn't have a prayer."

    Excerpts from an article about Lewis from 2003 (not sure if I'm allowed to post the link).

    These days Wlad gets castigated for the same reasons Lewis did...plus now for not being Lewis. The next dominant heavyweight champion is most likely gonna be compared to everyone before him. Nostalgia is often blinding. It's a never ending cycle and the grass is always greener on the other side.

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    • Silencers
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      #12
      I don't think that's true, an intelligent heavyweight doesn't neccessarily have to be a boring heavyweight, he can be entertaining, fans want entertainment.

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      • jisi
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        #13
        61.000 people at ringside! Wlad had so many fans! 11 Million on german TV.

        German love intelligent fighters and they love Wladimir Klitschko. Every fight is sold out.

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        • The_Demon
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          #14
          Originally posted by jisi
          61.000 people at ringside! Wlad had so many fans! 11 Million on german TV.

          German love intelligent fighters and they love Wladimir Klitschko. Every fight is sold out.
          its true,the germans also enjoy watching paint dry

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          • Joe2608
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            #15
            They want entertaining and explosive champions. They can be intelligent too though.

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            • mickey malone
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              #16
              Originally posted by ..Calderon...
              They want a strong, brute who goes in there, kills then swings home from a vine to his tree house.

              Vote. Discuss.
              There is an element of truth I suppose..

              Tunney could never emulate the popularity of Dempsey..
              Lewis & Tyson was similar..
              Wlad's intelligent & rarely gets praised for it..
              Back in the 60's Everyone favoured Liston before he fought the intelligent Ali..

              I can see why you've asked the question...

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              • KittenFlaps
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                #17
                Define fans. Seems like a lot of people in Germany and other parts of Europe really enjoy one intelligent HW.

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                • THe TRiNiTY
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                  #18
                  Yeah, I don't want people to think I'm singling anyone out. I've just heard people mock Lewis for playing chess, or Tunney for reading in the past.

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                  • The Noose
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                    #19
                    Intelligent in the ring or outside?

                    Ali was both and the most popular fighter of all time.

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                    • THe TRiNiTY
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bob Anomaly
                      Intelligent in the ring or outside?

                      Ali was both and the most popular fighter of all time.
                      He was intelligent in the ring to an extent. However, he had flashiness that few, most likely no other, boxer(s) had.

                      Nonetheless, I mean outside the ring. And he was of a different kind of intelligence. I mean the soft-spoken, introvert type.

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