Victor Ortiz is the mutha****in ****!

[Walt Liquor]

Im tellin yall, hes gonna be the man in the next few years..... p4p by 2010.... he beats campbell, bradley, hatton, and khan fairly easily if he fights them now..... even at 147, he can beat the likes of berto, and maybe even cotto or mosley in the future, if he continues to improve....call me ******, but i see something special in this dude.....He's so talented, it would be tragic if he retired anything short of th HOF

you could be right, but we haven't seen him chin checked

[Walt Liquor]

Bradley took shots from Holt that would have killed Ortiz.

You're jumping the gun.

you are correct!!!!

Ortiz never tested like bradley. Bradley's been through a lot, different styles, hard punchers, awkward guys etc

[shade darkar]

vargas was damn good, he just rushed things... victor wants to "take his time"... key difference....and he would knock bradleys ass out

the same guy that was stopped by amir khan?

[Ekscape]

Maidana is a true test IMO... he aint no joke...

[Ekscape]

the same guy that was stopped by amir khan?

He was never stopped by Amir Khan... stop believing everything you read... The bout was stopped because of a vast point differential in the amateurs... Ortiz would beat the **** out of Khan is they fought today

[Esquire Dale]

vargas was damn good, he just rushed things... victor wants to "take his time"... key difference....and he would knock bradleys ass out

Yeah Bradley aint all that. I thought holt did a job on him. 15 round fight Holt woulda smashed him IMO.

[shade darkar]

He was never stopped by Amir Khan... stop believing everything you read... The bout was stopped because of a vast point differential in the amateurs... Ortiz would beat the **** out of Khan is they fought today

so he was stopped then.

[Pullcounter]

Im tellin yall, hes gonna be the man in the next few years..... p4p by 2010.... he beats campbell, bradley, hatton, and khan fairly easily if he fights them now..... even at 147, he can beat the likes of berto, and maybe even cotto or mosley in the future, if he continues to improve....call me ******, but i see something special in this dude.....He's so talented, it would be tragic if he retired anything short of th HOF

he's got a better personality than most boxers and he's very likable. that said, boxing isn't a personality contest.

he's got potential and but he should not be rushed or may end up like vargas.

[Walt Liquor]

Yeah Bradley aint all that. I thought holt did a job on him. 15 round fight Holt woulda smashed him IMO.

15 rd fights stopped a long time ago, excellent analogy

[BOOMbip]

I ***in like this kid!