Ring magazine Pound for pound? AGREE?

[Hagler★]

Before Cotto 'lost' to cheato no body would have had a problem putting him at #1, depending on how he beats Pac (if he does) I would have no prob having Cotto at number 1

[REMOVED SHARK 99]

Obvious one that isn't on there is Floyd, he needs to get back into the mix and I think if he beats Marquez they will place him as second behind Manny, this will start the hype for probably the biggest boxing showdown in my generation at least.

[F l i c k e r]

I just dont see how Hozumi isn't up there.

won 26 (KO 10) + lost 2 (KO 0)
WBC bantamweight champion since '04.
Hasn't loss since '01
Has never been KO'd
8 consecutive title defenses
Last 3 fights all TKO's none leaving the 2nd round.
All title defenses against top 5(at the time) in the division.

[Pullcounter]

morons, wtf has jmm done to get up to #2 on that list?

he lost to pac 2x

The Ring Magazine pound for pound is a list of the current pound-for-pound professional boxing rankings distributed by The Ring magazine.[1]


Top 10 rankings
Rank Fighter Record Weight class Titles
1 Manny Pacquiao 49-3-2 (37 KO) Junior welterweight WBC Emeritus Champion, The Ring Junior Welterweight Champion
IBO Junior Welterweight Champion
2 Juan Manuel Márquez 50-4-1 (37 KO) Lightweight WBA and WBO Lightweight Champion ("Undisputed")
The Ring Lightweight Champion, WBO Super Champion
3 Bernard Hopkins 49-5-1-1 (32 KO) Light heavyweight WBC Emeritus Champion, WBO Super Champion
4 Shane Mosley 46-5-0-1 (39 KO) Welterweight WBA Welterweight Champion ("Undisputed")
5 Israel Vázquez 43-4 (31 KO) Junior featherweight WBC Emeritus Champion
6 Rafael Márquez 38-5 (34 KO) Junior featherweight
7 Nonito Donaire 21-1 (14 KO) Flyweight IBF Flyweight Champion
8 Vic Darchinyan 32-1-1 (26 KO) Junior bantamweight WBA, WBC and IBF Junior Bantamweight Champion ("Undisputed")
9 Miguel Ángel Cotto 34-1 (27 KO) Welterweight WBO Welterweight Champion
10 Celestino Caballero 32-2 (22 KO) Junior featherweight WBA and IBF Junior Featherweight Champion ("Undisputed")

looks fine

Also, why on earth is Mosley so much higher on that list than Cotto?

cause cotto got spanked by margo and mosley spanked margo.

[Hagler★]

I just dont see how Hozumi isn't up there.

won 26 (KO 10) + lost 2 (KO 0)
WBC bantamweight champion since '04.
Hasn't loss since '01
Has never been KO'd
8 consecutive title defenses
Last 3 fights all TKO's none leaving the 2nd round.
All title defenses against top 5(at the time) in the division.

Very convincing arguement put forward here

[Pullcounter]

Before Cotto 'lost' to cheato no body would have had a problem putting him at #1, depending on how he beats Pac (if he does) I would have no prob having Cotto at number 1

nah, cotto can't be #1. as is, he isn't good enough, but w/ a better trainer he could be.

[baracuda]

I just dont see how Hozumi isn't up there.

won 26 (KO 10) + lost 2 (KO 0)
WBC bantamweight champion since '04.
Hasn't loss since '01
Has never been KO'd
8 consecutive title defenses
Last 3 fights all TKO's none leaving the 2nd round.
All title defenses against top 5(at the time) in the division.

hope to see him fighting inthe us soon.....saw some of his fights and the kid is really good...

[Taino79]

I understand what you are saying...but you always hear people saying to be #1 you have to beat #1. On the flipside in college football if you are # 9 and beat # 1, you tend to go up some slots but not at #1

I agree here... now lets look at this the other way... how far down will Manny go if he looses to Cotto?

[rob6465]

he lost to pac 2x


looks fine


cause cotto got spanked by margo and mosley spanked margo.

yea....but cotto beat mosley, but i'm ok with the rankings as long as floyd is not present. If floyd beats marquez or anyone top welterweight then floyd can be on list. This is top p4p NOW, not 2 yrs ago.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Also, why on earth is Mosley so much higher on that list than Cotto?

Golden Boy owns the ring Dude.

They ahve to make mosley look better or more deserving of what he is, so he can land the big fights and not COtto.

Cotto should be #1 at WW and #6 P4P. Mosley shouldbe #2 WW and #7 P4P