If us fans never get to witness Pac vs Floyd, who's to blame?

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  • Deja_Vous
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    #61
    Originally posted by deevel79
    Calderon is better than Baldomir. Does that mean Floyd should've fought him instead?

    Its one thing to fight a great boxer that's in your weight-class. Its another to take on a great boxer who is 2 weight-classes beneath u.
    Don't be a hypocrite

    Cotto is about to fight a guy..Fanny..who is 2 weight classes below him.

    JMM is better than Jennings and Al Gomez..

    Hell

    He's better than Cotto..

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      #62
      Originally posted by Deja_Vous
      Tell me..who did you want Floyd to fight in his FIRST bout in 2 years??

      Micheal Jennings??

      Golden Johnson??

      Alphonso Gomez???


      C'mon now Calzhage fan..lol

      JMM is better than all those guys combined...He's even better than Cotto...Tony..and Clottey.
      What do all 3 of those guys have in Common?

      wait for it...............wait for it....................

      They were all WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTERS (and Gomez actually fought at Middleweight too). Are any of them high quality fighters? No, but are we going to start cherry picking fighter's easy opponents now? Because if you want to include Cotto in there you better throw in Floyd, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones, etc...and you're gonna downplay those guys' careers?

      C'mon dude...if Floyd was the draw he says he is he could fight a one armed midget and it would sell. Oscar almost always sold out even against sub par competition (check the attendance for the Forbes fight). But the reality is he tries to find his nitch to get a big payday going instead of standing by his claim of being the best P4P and fighting the best.

      How in the hell is Manny Pacquiao fighting Miguel Cotto before Floyd is? That there says a lot about Floyd's career moves and how he may be looked at in the longrun...underachieving (and by achievments I don't mean titles in different divisions. Pacquiao could possibly have the chance to get his 7th world title in 7 weight classes).
      Last edited by Ravishing; 06-23-2009, 03:05 PM.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #63
        Originally posted by Deja_Vous
        Tell me..who did you want Floyd to fight in his FIRST bout in 2 years??

        Micheal Jennings??

        Golden Johnson??

        Alphonso Gomez???

        C'mon now Calzhage fan..lol

        JMM is better than all those guys combined...He's even better than Cotto...Tony..and Clottey.
        its true that jmm is better than cotto, margo, and clottey, but jmm just isn't big enough.

        Originally posted by Deja_Vous
        Floyd's ppv numbers were far better than Fanny Pac's against the same opponents.
        so what, pac's running for senator in 2010. floyd should dump the jmm fight and negotiate for the pac fight this year and accept a 50/50 purse split before team pac signs the dotted line.

        floyd has to know that cotto even if he wins won't be as big a cash out as a fight w/ pac. a 50/50 purse split w/ pac nets floyd more money than a 70/30 split with any other fighter.

        Originally posted by deevel79
        But dont u think if Floyd would've spoken out on a possible matchup with Pac, and showed interest, we would be seeing that instead? All he's done thus far is make excuses and discredit Pac.
        i think the only reason he came back was to fight pac, but I hate how floyd discredits potential opponents all the time.

        Originally posted by deevel79
        No, he said that about the other 2 fighters that he's made excuses not to get in the ring with. Mosley and Cotto.

        His excuse for Pac is, "he's been outboxed by Eric Morales"

        Talk about lame!
        yeah, floyd should be talking pac up, now trying to tear pac down.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Deja_Vous
          Don't be a hypocrite

          Cotto is about to fight a guy..Fanny..who is 2 weight classes below him.

          JMM is better than Jennings and Al Gomez..

          Hell

          He's better than Cotto..

          Pacman is fighting Cotto at the same catchweight he would fight Floyd. 145.

          Floyd is fighting a guy who has never fought above LW.

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            #65
            Originally posted by raycorey
            Yes am a calzaghe fan but the thread isnt about him and how did you know that??? anyway I would have love for Mayweather to fight the bigger guys like Mosley or cotto if they had the chance to put the fight together.

            First time i heard he was fighting JMM i was shocked to be honest..
            JMM is a set-up for Fanny Pac..

            Who would have been a better tune-up after 2 years away???

            Ottke Urkal?

            Manuel Gomez??

            JMM >> Cotto

            JMM >> Tony

            He's not bigger..but he sure is BETTER.

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            • DonTaseMeBrah
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              #66
              of course its fraud jr. all he had to do was wait 1 day & we would have the mayweather mafia vs pacquiao posse wars instead of the cotto cartels. I mean how can the cartel compete when their don & consiglieri (vaborikua & animalistic) are sleeping with the fishes?

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              • Deja_Vous
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                #67
                Originally posted by deevel79
                Pacman is fighting Cotto at the same catchweight he would fight Floyd. 145.

                Floyd is fighting a guy who has never fought above LW.
                Cotto is fighting Fanny...a guy that can't even beat JMM decisively.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  its true that jmm is better than cotto, margo, and clottey, but jmm just isn't big enough.


                  so what, pac's running for senator in 2010. floyd should dump the jmm fight and negotiate for the pac fight this year and accept a 50/50 purse split before team pac signs the dotted line.

                  floyd has to know that cotto even if he wins won't be as big a cash out as a fight w/ pac. a 50/50 purse split w/ pac nets floyd more money than a 70/30 split with any other fighter.


                  i think the only reason he came back was to fight pac, but I hate how floyd discredits potential opponents all the time.


                  yeah, floyd should be talking pac up, now trying to tear pac down.
                  Arum should be talking Floyd up instead of tearing him down.

                  Let's hold Bob's feet to the fire.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                    Cotto is fighting Fanny...a guy that can't even beat JMM decisively.
                    Styles make fights. U should know that Reggie.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                      Arum should be talking Floyd up instead of tearing him down.

                      Let's hold Bob's feet to the fire.
                      Bob lowered his demand from 60/40 to 50/50. It doesnt get more fair than that. The offer is out there. All Floyd has to do is pick up the phone. Pac said he wants the fight. Bob made the offer. Who's left?..........

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