rid**** bowe vs. wladimir klitschko..who wins?

[Tmann400]

I think Lewis beats Wlad yes, but I also think wlad beats bowe so there

dude just admit it...your a bowe hater...no need to call him a piece of **** though

[NakiFan]

Im not a bowe hater, but it is ****** the way people put him in the "elite" category, with the atg h/w's he was a lvel below, with briggs and golota

[Obama]

Im not a bowe hater, but it is ****** the way people put him in the "elite" category, with the atg h/w's he was a lvel below, with briggs and golota

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Those guys are NO WHERE NEAR rated as high as Bowe, by ANY historian. Even the most crack pot historians to ever walk the face of the earth wouldn't rate him that low. He's WIDELY considered a top 20 Heavyweight. That's the god honest truth.

[Tmann400]

Im not a bowe hater, but it is ****** the way people put him in the "elite" category, with the atg h/w's he was a lvel below, with briggs and golota

he may not be an atg...but he definatly was a level above golota and briggs dude...he beat a prime holyfield TWICE

[knn]

Having said that genius. The poll says prime for prime. The Bowe that fought Golota was not prime.

A prime Bowe easily "Corrie Sanders" Wladdy back to Kiev.

But now you are doing the same. You make it "Prime Bowe vs average Wlad".
A prime Wlad (= current Wlad) does not get Sanders'ed anymore.

Moreover I have to agree with Klitschko2009: How can a 28yro Bowe be past it? You could even make an argument that with 28 years Bowe was even pre-prime, but merely too lazy. He was boxing only for 8 years.

How come that all the wins are "prime" but as soon as someone loses (Tyson, Evan Fields etc) he suddenly "was shot", "a shell of himself" and "not the same since X beat the $%^@ out of him"?

You should allow the possibility that Bowe was not past it but simply encountered the stronger guys. Let's not forget that Golota is an East-European = Something the US boxers didn't face a lot before the 90ies.

[knn]

Prime Holyfield > Wlad's whole resume

AnyBetterFighterPRIME > AnyOtherBetterFightersWholeResume.

Is that something that should astonish us?

Check Wlad's record against a guy who's reach is as long as him.

Yeah, I checked. Wlad boxed 4x against reachier guys than himself. He KOed all of them.

And now? Did you try to tell us something?

[Obama]

Yeah, I checked. Wlad boxed 4x against reachier guys than himself. He KOed all of them.

And now? Did you try to tell us something?

The next step is to list their names.