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  • Chuckguy
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    #21
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    Yeah if he's so bad ass why not fight Klitschko at heavyweight? Then he'll really be a badass



    Because you dumb ass Oscar fought at 154. Pacquiao fought at 135. 147 was the agreed upon weight.
    So lets get this straight
    you are ok with the fight taking place at 145?
    One less pound than what Cotto weighted for the Clottey fight?

    Its been said before 1,2,3 pounds makes a difference
    its not the actual weight but the work one has to put in to drop those last pounds
    that is why fighters come in all ***ed up a la de la hoya

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      #22
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      2.Whats realistics? For both guys to fight at their very best. 144 is not a division.
      Oh I see, you want Cotto at his "very best" but not pacquiao?!? So pacquiao like you said will weigh in around 147-148 while Cotto weighs in over 160 pounds?!? That's fair!? haha, the truth comes out, you just want a huge size advantage for cotto, thanks for clearing it up.

      3.Cotto now got almost KOd by Clottey?
      Yeah man, I love cotto but he was obviously hurt on numerous occasions and if Clottey wasn't so conservative in the later rounds Cotto would have taken a knee or would have been KO'd. For the record I scored the fight for Cotto by 2 points.

      Dude you are really ******!!!! Cotto beat one of teh toughes WWs with one ****ing eye, didt got wobbled or hurt once, but he was almost KOd several times. Sure buddy!!!!
      Wait, you're seriously denying that Cotto wasn't hurt??? omg

      4.Ok is that so, take the WWs out of he picture and lets see how many big Money fights have Manny to fight.
      He has options

      5.Says who? if he had to eat 2 breakfast to make 138, how do you explain him being 19 fight night.
      Says The Ring Magazine.

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      • S A M U R A I
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        #23
        Originally posted by Chuckguy
        ALl Im saying is if he is so bad ass then have him come in at 147 like he did for Oscar.
        He weighed 142.

        Get it? He is not a Welterweight, never has been, and probably never will be. Manny Pacquiao = 135/140 pound fighter.

        Do you think it's acceptable for Miguel to outweigh Pacquiao by 20 pounds on fight night? Is that fair to you? Like ИATAS said, is Manny really that terrifying?



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          #24
          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          Oh I see, you want Cotto at his "very best" but not pacquiao?!?
          /end thread



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          • ИATAS
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            #25
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            So lets get this straight
            you are ok with the fight taking place at 145?
            One less pound than what Cotto weighted for the Clottey fight?
            Yes, I'm fine with the fight being at 143, 144, 145, 146, or 147.

            Its been said before 1,2,3 pounds makes a difference
            Not much of a difference when you rehydrate to 160+

            Bernard hopkins often shed extra pounds to weigh in close to his opponent. Like weight 156 pounds against Oscar when he didn't have to and he normally weighed in at 159/160.


            its not the actual weight but the work one has to put in to drop those last pounds
            that is why fighters come in all ***ed up a la de la hoya
            I already explained to you oscar lost the weight WEEKS before the actual fight and never rehydrated. That was his mistake. He should have cut the weight just before the fight, then rehydrated to 160+. Obviously he didn't.

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            • Ch@mpBox@PR
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              #26
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Oh I see, you want Cotto at his "very best" but not pacquiao?!? So pacquiao like you said will weigh in around 147-148 while Cotto weighs in over 160 pounds?!? That's fair!? haha, the truth comes out, you just want a huge size advantage for cotto, thanks for clearing it up.



              Yeah man, I love cotto but he was obviously hurt on numerous occasions and if Clottey wasn't so conservative in the later rounds Cotto would have taken a knee or would have been KO'd. For the record I scored the fight for Cotto by 2 points.



              Wait, you're seriously denying that Cotto wasn't hurt??? omg



              He has options



              Says The Ring Magazine.
              1. What the **** Cottos weight have to do with manny beaing at his best? I can use your logic and say you just want Manny to fight a weight drain fighter.

              I already told Manny will weight in 142-144 and Weight at the fight 148-150. So he will be at his best. How Cotto draining himself will make Manny be at his best? he may have a advantage agains a drain fighter, but that doesnt affects how Manny makes the weight or how his health is.

              2.Cotto was not hrt a single time during that fight. period. When did Cotto was wobbled, or stuuned or dropped for that matter? none, Not once, ninguna vez.

              3. What Options? Please feel free to tell me, who will bring him half the money the WWs will. Go ahead!!!

              4. And I said they are a bunch of ****ing liars!!!!!!!!

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                #27
                Originally posted by theAleph
                I'm gonna LMAO if Pac signs on to fight Mosley instead. Winner of that fight gets the winner of FLoyd-Marquez. Loser gets similar. Cotto would then have to fight Cris John in Indonesia for 30K just to get back into the swing of things.
                will cotto fight chris john at a catchweight?

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                • nj_evoixgsr
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                  #28
                  first, pac was obviously willing to think of 144-145. ww is 141-147 why are you bitching. it's within the division. cotto weighed in at 146. you ******* never lost a lb in your lives. that's why you e-thugging talking mad ****. to say 144-145 is not a fair catchweight. you dudes are idiots that simply don't know how to -1 or -2. it's a fair assumption your ESL class consisted of nothing more than the idiots that taught you anything good.

                  go back to school.

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                  • theAleph
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                    will cotto fight chris john at a catchweight?
                    Why would someone pass up the chance to fight at a parking lot in the majestic jungles of Indonesia?

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                    • Hagler★
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                      ****** plan, who will like to give up 2 mills????? **** that

                      You can **** Roachs plans b saying either 147 or **** off!!! Thats how **** should be done!!!!!!
                      This where the thread shud have closed

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