Will Wladimir Klitschko break Joe Lous' 25 title defenses record?

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  • Hitman932
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    #61
    Originally posted by GJC
    Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, Tim Witherspoon,Trevor Berbick, Leon Spinks, Bonecrusher Smith, Ray Mercer......
    Wlad would kick the **** out of everyone of those guys?

    What exactly was your point with these names?

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    • Phirsole
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      #62
      Murder?

      Nope, he wouldn't murder them. He would jab them all the time, probably into a boring defeat. I doubt that Foreman, Frazier, Ali, or Louis in their prime would have an easy victory against the Wlad I saw last Saturday.

      Ali would outdance him and possibly floor him. But the other three would probably not be able to get past the Left Hand Jabberwockeeeee.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Hitman932
        I think he will top out at 20 defenses which is as impressive as Louis' record if not moreso.

        Louis was defending against the "bum of the month club".

        At one point Louis made back to back defenses against guys with 23 and 40 losses. Those kinda fights would never get sanctioned these days. Considering also that back in the day he could fight 6-7 times per year without worrying about HBO and sanctioning bodies I think 20 defenses by a modern heavyweight is actually more impressive than 25 by a guy fighting 50 years ago.
        Joe had a bum of the month tour..

        Vlad has a bum of the month CAREER.




        At least Louis didn't get KTFO during his bum of the month tour.

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          #64
          Originally posted by FreshPrince
          What do you think? Obviously two different cases here. Joe Louis was THE champion for all of his defenses while Wlad hasn't even gotten all the belts yet. But counting the main 4 belts, (correct me if I'm wrong) YOU ARE WRONG he has defended at least one of them 12 times. He's almost halfway there and just entering the prime of his career.

          If he gets by Haye, I see him dominating easily for the next 3 years. That's when the next batch of prospects will be coming through (Fury, Wilder, ect.).

          Keep in mind, other than waiting 6 months for Haye in 2009, Wlad fights 3-4 times a year.
          He is NOT the true Champion I don't care what any one says. As long as his brother came back and took Peter's title and Peter out of th epicture for him his brother has more claim to the Tue Champ title then he does. I don;t care how many alphabet titles he holds and how many times he defended them.

          he is 33 years old he is not in his prime You prime years in boxing are usually from 25-30 that is pretty much in every sport. Even if he fights for 3 more years and fights 3 or 4 times a yearit would be only 12 title defenses. He just got the ring belt and was crowned HW Champion as far as the public is cincered so 12 is only half of 25. i don;t care how many times he defended the IBO, WBO, IBF or any othe alphbet belt for that matter.....Lefty

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            #65
            Originally posted by Phirsole
            Nope, he wouldn't murder them. He would jab them all the time, probably into a boring defeat. I doubt that Foreman, Frazier, Ali, or Louis in their prime would have an easy victory against the Wlad I saw last Saturday.

            Ali would outdance him and possibly floor him. But the other three would probably not be able to get past the Left Hand Jabberwockeeeee.
            Just think what Foreman..ali...Frazier or Louis would have done to Chageav..

            LOL

            Vlad can't beat any of the greats...why?

            Because:

            1..He keeps his feet too far apart..drastically limiting his defensive options to leaning straight back...or sliding straight back.

            2..He is not a 15 round fighter

            3..He has zero headmovement

            4..His offense is too predictable

            5..He's already by KTFO by guys that would be considered jokes in better era's.

            6..he drops his jab everytime he uses it.

            7..he doesnt take a good punch


            Vlad is not even on Primo Carnera's level.

            Brewster and Corrie Sanders would get blasted by Primo.

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              #66
              Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
              he is 33 years old he is not in his prime You prime years in boxing are usually from 25-30 that is pretty much in every sport. Even if he fights for 3 more years and fights 3 or 4 times a yearit would be only 12 title defenses. He just got the ring belt and was crowned HW Champion as far as the public is cincered so 12 is only half of 25. i don;t care how many times he defended the IBO, WBO, IBF or any othe alphbet belt for that matter.....Lefty
              How the **** are you going to say Wlad is past his prime? When he was 25-30 he was getting knocked out. He just had the best performance of his career and is still getting better.

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              • GJC
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                #67
                Originally posted by Hitman932
                Wlad would kick the **** out of everyone of those guys?

                What exactly was your point with these names?
                I'd have a £ on a prime Witherspoon.
                The point was in answer to the staement that there were no household names on Holmes record, I quoeted the quote so as people like you could keep up. All of them are household names. Good or bad Leon Spinks was a household name , no? It's called facts

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Phirsole
                  Nope, he wouldn't murder them. He would jab them all the time, probably into a boring defeat. I doubt that Foreman, Frazier, Ali, or Louis in their prime would have an easy victory against the Wlad I saw last Saturday.

                  Ali would outdance him and possibly floor him. But the other three would probably not be able to get past the Left Hand Jabberwockeeeee.
                  Not if they walked slowly forward in a straight line no.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by TEDetc
                    Todays era isn't even close to the Holmes era.
                    are you nuts? the holmes era was dreadful and at least as bad as this era if not worse

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by GJC
                      Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, Tim Witherspoon,Trevor Berbick, Leon Spinks, Bonecrusher Smith, Ray Mercer......
                      lol,,mercer wasnt in holmes title era and norton was old and damaged goods. the best fighter in holmes era was probably witherspoon and many thought he beat holmes

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