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  • steptwome
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    Chagaev Looked Good Enough To Beat Haye

    Chagaev Looked Good Enough To Beat Haye
    By Chris Williams:

    While Ruslan Chagaev (25-1-1, 17 KOs) may not have landed too many punches on Saturday night against Wladimir Klitschko, I saw enough of Chagaev to get the impression that he looked more than good enough to beat British heavyweight David Haye. Chagaev showed a great chin, an excellent ability to block punches against the towering 6′7″ Klitschko.

    The knockdown that occurred in the 2nd round, after Wladimir dropped Chagaev with a huge right hand, I think that punch would have left Haye in a coma and would have forced him to be taken out of the ring on a stretcher. Had that been Haye in there with Wladimir, I doubt that Haye would have made it beyond the 2nd.

    If Haye did get past the 2nd, each round in which Wladimir landed a big right hand, which was every round as it turned out, would have seen Haye getting dropped for the count. Chagaev should get a lot of credit because the shots that he took were monstrous and he never showed any sign of being hurt in the fight, not even when he was knocked down or when the fight was stopped after the 9th round.

    Haye, 28, would have been in serious trouble if that had been him in with Chagaev. Haye wouldn’t have had a jab to hold Chagaev on the outside like Wladimir was able to do, and would have to stand and trade with him on the inside. Haye punches hard, but his shots would have had no effect on Chagaev and he would have found himself in a grueling bout where he’s absorbing huge punishment from Chagaev.

    Now I know that Haye doesn’t want to fight another opponent before he gets a jackpot fight against Vitali, but I think Haye really owes it to himself and to boxing for him to actually give a shred of evidence that he belongs in the same ring with a champion like Vitali.

    At least Haye would get more credibility as a heavyweight that showed that he deserves the title shot rather than getting one awarded to him because of his ability to trash talk better than other fighters. The difference here is that Haye is listened to because he proved that he was better than the subpar opposition in the cruiserweight division when he was fighting.

    Immediately upon Haye leaving the cruiserweights, the division got a whole lot better to the point where I don’t think it would Haye would be capable of capturing any of the four titles.

    Chagaev may have lost badly to Wladimir, but he showed a lot of skills in that fight and I think he would be a nightmare for Haye. Right now, Haye needs a tune-up bout because he’s been out of the ring since November, seven long months ago.

    Haye may want a fight with Vitali in September, but David needs at least one tune-up before then. If not for Chagaev’s cut that he suffered in his fight with Wladimir, I think Chagaev would be the perfect opponent for Haye to prove himself against and show that he deserves to be in the same arena as Vitali. As of now, I don’t feel that Haye does and think he shouldn’t even be considered by Vitali until Haye at least beats two or three top 10 opponents.
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    Chagaev is a nightmare of a matchup for Haye. There is no way haye wins this fight. But Chagaev couldn't get medical clearance to fight in England.

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      #3
      Originally posted by kayjay
      Chagaev is a nightmare of a matchup for Haye. There is no way haye wins this fight. But Chagaev couldn't get medical clearance to fight in England.
      Why do you think Chagaev is a nightmare for Haye

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        whos chris williams?

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          Originally posted by steptwome
          Why do you think Chagaev is a nightmare for Haye
          Chagaev is very hard to hit with right hands and has a first class beard. If you've watched Chagaev's fights throughout his career you know that Wlad is the first to ever touch him with a right. Chagaev is normally tough to keep at a distance, and has overall the best technique in the division defensively. He has relatively heavy hands.

          His weakness is that he takes large parts of fights off, but this is not a huge problem against Haye.

          Haye could never win a decision against Chagaev, and I wouldn't favor him to get a knockout.

          Chagaev is the worst matchup in the division for Haye, including maybe even Vitali.

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            Chris Williams is a ****ing idiot.

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              #7
              Originally posted by The Gunner
              Chris Williams is a ****ing idiot.
              he knows more about boxing than you twat!!

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              • steptwome
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                #8
                Originally posted by kayjay
                Chagaev is very hard to hit with right hands and has a first class beard. If you've watched Chagaev's fights throughout his career you know that Wlad is the first to ever touch him with a right. Chagaev is normally tough to keep at a distance, and has overall the best technique in the division defensively. He has relatively heavy hands.

                His weakness is that he takes large parts of fights off, but this is not a huge problem against Haye.

                Haye could never win a decision against Chagaev, and I wouldn't favor him to get a knockout.

                Chagaev is the worst matchup in the division for Haye, including maybe even Vitali.
                You don't think that Haye would capitalize off of Chagaevs "inactivity"

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by steptwome
                  You don't think that Haye would capitalize off of Chagaevs "inactivity"
                  No, I don't. Chagaev is technically in a different league. Haye throws himself off balance and punches from his kneecaps, exactly the recipe for disaster against a southpaw counterpuncher.

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                    Originally posted by kayjay
                    No, I don't. Chagaev is technically in a different league. Haye throws himself off balance and punches from his kneecaps, exactly the recipe for disaster against a southpaw counterpuncher.
                    ...fair enough. but i do believe that Haye has the edge in foot work and speed.

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