This fight should be at 147 if not Pac should find another fight at 140. Cotto's a welterweight now and has been for two years.
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Pacquiao-Cotto Catchweight: My 2 Cents
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Originally posted by brently1979 View PostThis fight should be at 147 if not Pac should find another fight at 140. Cotto's a welterweight now and has been for two years.
but a lot of people are considering cotto's disadvantage at 147. not pacquiao's disadvantage at 147. if the fight gets made, catchweight is reasonable IMO
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I give pac all the credit in the world for beating DLH.
No one in the world gave pac a chance and he proved a lot wrong.
I think pac-cotto should be at 145...
Pounds really make a difference, 143 is pushing it imo, 145 is fair, if pac doesn't think he can handle it, don't look at WWs then, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by Mojita View PostI give pac all the credit in the world for beating DLH.
No one in the world gave pac a chance and he proved a lot wrong.
I think pac-cotto should be at 145...
Pounds really make a difference, 143 is pushing it imo, 145 is fair, if pac doesn't think he can handle it, don't look at WWs then, plain and simple.
im picking cotto to win at either weight.
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Originally posted by aether View Posta lot of you are bitching about this fight being held at anything less than 147 lbs. thinking that a few pounds would definitely determine the outcome of this fight. saying that roach is trying to drain cotto to give his guy the advantage, like he did de la hoya.
well first off, de la hoya set the weight at 147, not pacquiao. pac's team did not negotiate the weight at all. don't know why pac's team getting ripped for it. since that fight, people became obsessed with this weight drained thing. all of a sudden it is the only thing that determines a fight. its true that de la hoya could have performed better at a higher weight, but pac gets no credit for that win when in the first place, he did not set the weight, was coming up two divisions where delahoya was going down 1/2 a division, was supposed to get killed, and ends up making de la hoya quit. i guess the explanation there is a lot of people made bold predictions that oscar would win no matter what, and won't admit they are wrong. just make excuses why they are wrong. its easy now to say "hey, pacquiao is a ***** cause he didnt fight de la hoya at 154". it would make pacquiao climb up three divisions, and the fight was already a farce at 147.
now comes the cotto fight. people now thinks weight is the only thing that matters. to me 1-2 pounds ain't winning this fight. roach may think so, pac's camp may think so, scared cotto fans may think so, i don't. this weight drained thing is blown way out of proportion following the delahoya fight.
don't get me wrong. i think if pac wants cotto, it should be at 147 pounds. nothing less. but put yourself in roach's position here. cotto would outweigh pac by 15 pounds if the limit was 147. is it such a ***** move wanting the weight difference to be less, say 10 pounds by adding certain restrictions? i think its pretty reasonable in pac's part to ask for 143-144-145 limit.
a fight at catchweight does not guarantee a pacquiao victory, and a fight at 147 doesnt guarantee a cotto win either.
its unfair to pacquiao if he is made to move up another division when he has been in different divisions his last four fights. contrary to popular belief, its not easy to do. but cotto is the best fight for him now aside from marquez. roach wanting this fight at a catchweight is not to give pacquiao an advantage, its to give cotto less of an advantage. call it a ***** move but its pretty reasonable if you ask me.
basically, what im trying to say is:
1. pac deserves credit for the de la hoya fight
2. a lot of you are over-****ing-reacting at the weigh this fight is in.
Personally, I want Pac to weigh-in like he normally does... as a light welter and let Cotto weigh-in at 147 and come-in near middleweight like he normally does.
That would also be unfair to Pac but I'm confident he can beat Cotto in his own turf (147) even if he's the one calling Pac out. Would they give Cotto credit for beating an underweight Pac?
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I'm fine with catchweights as long as the objective isn't to have one fighter at less then 100%. For example I was fine with Pavlik Hopkins being fought at 170. But I think it's bs to try to make Cotto drop to 143 because they know he will be drained and not able to fight at his best. Where's the honor in beating a fighter you know isn't at his best because you made him drop that extra weight. Pac set the standard by fighting Oscar at 147, if he could fight there once he can again. On the flip side if Cotto agrees to the weight he has no excuses and I would still give Pac credit.
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