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[mickey malone]

Fighters with RAW talent tend to prevail there is a difference. I like Arreola hes fun to watch, but I see nothing from him that makes me think he'll do anything. In order to beat Wlad you have to get past his jab, and if you are so lucky you get to catch a right hand for your troubles. Steward has Wlad tying up anyone who gets past the right hand so then its break em up and start the process all over again.

I took a VERY good look at Wlad as a whole... Perfect jab, Great conditioning, Ring generalmanship up to scratch, but the right cross/hook lacked authority... Areola can walk through that, while consuming the jab, but only because he's the rawest thing out there... Chagaev is similar to Chuvalo... Tough, but don't hurt. (the opponent, that is) Regards, MM

[The Gambler1981]

In all honesty and I know this is counter intuitive, if you try to box Wlad he is invicible (bascially), but if you try to make it a brawl which is generally a tactic I loathe he can be beat . I don't know if Arreola or Haye can beat Wlad, and I would tend to say not, but no man is unbeatable.

It is odd to say that Arreola who I view as a lot less skillful then Chagaev has a better chance of beating Wlad (note I did not say good chance). Styles make fights and going in saying **** the world throwing caution to the wind, it may make it a short night for that guy but in a choice between slim and none.

[#1Assassin]

Ya and SSM had no chance vs Margo,B-Hop had no chance vs Pav and Quintana had no hope vs P-Will. If they are 2 world class boxers matched in there respective weight classes THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NO CHANCE. Sure Wlad is the best heavy and would be tough to beat but Arreola would be a LIVE dog. There is no Heavy today that has Arreolas pressure style or that throws punches in bunches. You just don't know how Wlad would react to that kinda style. Also Arreola has a fightin spirit and is not like a Chageav,Rahman,Thompson or Ibagimov. One thing for sure is Arreola is not gonna stand there and take jabs and not fight. Wlad more than likely would win but to say Arreola has no chance is FALSE.

except arreola isnt a world class fighter, hes a entertaining fighter whos been hyped by hbo. to compare him to mosley and hopkins is simply ******ed.

i agree he has a chance, hes got a punch. but hes not on wlads level overall as a fighter, and those dying to se the fight are likely to get dissapointed.

[johnle43]

still, i'd love to see arreola in there with either one of the klits. or both.

[MANGLER]

The K bros own. Nobody at HW will beat em, includin Haye imo.

[Cadillac Man]

except arreola isnt a world class fighter, hes a entertaining fighter whos been hyped by hbo. to compare him to mosley and hopkins is simply ******ed.

i agree he has a chance, hes got a punch. but hes not on wlads level overall as a fighter, and those dying to se the fight are likely to get dissapointed.

I would say he is a world class fighter. If your ranked in the top 10 guess what? YOU A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER.

Never compared SSM and B-Hop to Arreola. I compared the match-ups. Both were 5 to 1 underdogs just like Arreola would be to Wlad. Bottom line of course he has a chance, I wouldn't put money on Arreola but he defn has a chance. I'm sure Sanders and Brewster before fight were told they had no chance. And what happened?

[mickey malone]

Just keep posting those sig pics, J.

****... Where do I start......???????

Marciano
Duran
Tyson
Toney
Hopkins
LaMotta
Dempsey
Benn
Paquaio
Froch
Fenech
Chavez
Pryor
Hagler
Pintor
Lynch
Zale
Zivic
Nelson
Castro
Mayorga
D'arcy
Cerdan
Andries
Tiozzou
Langford
Chico
Quawi
Frazier
Chitalada
Lopez
Darchinian
Jirov
Micklechevski
Barclay
Pazienza
Liston

Oh, & on & on.... None of these fighters were exceptionally polished, & only some of them are ATG's..... But they all did the job while entertaining the world... That's what it's all about 'old son'...... They all had one thing in common.... RAW talent!.....

THIS POST WAS DIRECTED TO JERCKONING.... But the C**T machine didn't do it's job.... Bit like Audley Harrison.....

[AKATheMack]

Ya and SSM had no chance vs Margo,B-Hop had no chance vs Pav and Quintana had no hope vs P-Will. If they are 2 world class boxers matched in there respective weight classes THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NO CHANCE. Sure Wlad is the best heavy and would be tough to beat but Arreola would be a LIVE dog. There is no Heavy today that has Arreolas pressure style or that throws punches in bunches. You just don't know how Wlad would react to that kinda style. Also Arreola has a fightin spirit and is not like a Chageav,Rahman,Thompson or Ibagimov. One thing for sure is Arreola is not gonna stand there and take jabs and not fight. Wlad more than likely would win but to say Arreola has no chance is FALSE.

I think he will I dont believe he has the skill to avoid it. Those fighters arent choosing to get jabbed to death all night they just cant do anything about it. The jab is the most important punch in boxing and Wlads is too good for the limited fighters who are out there. Unless Monk Foreman is the second coming of his father Wlad stays on top for quite awhile

[AKATheMack]

****... Where do I start......???????


Oh, & on & on.... None of these fighters were exceptionally polished, & only some of them are ATG's..... But they all did the job while entertaining the world... That's what it's all about 'old son'...... They all had one thing in common.... RAW talent!.....

Arreola doesnt have any real special talent such as Tysons speed/power, Toneys reflexes, Fraziers left hook, Chico height advantage, Mayorgas chin and so on. Hes a decent fighter and pretty tough hes just not elite and its almost cruel to put him in with Klit especially at this time.

[Guest]

****... Where do I start......???????

Marciano
Duran
Tyson
Toney
Hopkins
LaMotta
Dempsey
Benn
Paquaio
Froch
Fenech
Chavez
Pryor
Hagler
Pintor
Lynch
Zale
Zivic
Nelson
Castro
Mayorga
D'arcy
Cerdan
Andries
Tiozzou
Langford
Chico
Quawi
Frazier
Chitalada
Lopez
Darchinian
Jirov
Micklechevski
Barclay
Pazienza
Liston

Oh, & on & on.... None of these fighters were exceptionally polished, & only some of them are ATG's..... But they all did the job while entertaining the world... That's what it's all about 'old son'...... They all had one thing in common.... RAW talent!.....

THIS POST WAS DIRECTED TO JERCKONING.... But the C**T machine didn't do it's job.... Bit like Audley Harrison.....

Most of these guys on this list were very polished.
I can pick 20 off the bat who weren't just raw talents. Then you have guys like Mayorga who got his ass beat every time he stepped up.

Toney not polished? Hop? Hagler? Pryor? Duran? You gotta be kidding me.

You're smoking something if you think these guys didn't have a ton of skill to go along with their talent and they used it.

Raw talent doesn't make guys win. They adapt and use skills to get to the top.