Pacquiaos chin at 147

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you dont watch cotto fights then man cause he took a different approach on Clottey and he even mentioned it in his post fight interviews since clotteys defense was so solid

I don't like it when people think they know me. I've seen tons of Cotto fights. He didn't do anything all that different for Clottey. He had a terrible hole in his guard most of the way through and was getting tagged like a mother****er. IF he used a different approach, it didn't work very well because he almost lost the fight. Many people think he did lose it. He is lucky as hell to get that knockdown when Clottey was off-balance. That was the difference between losing and winning, IMO.



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[fightingfigs]

he was more of balance than anything. cotto is not a one punch ko artist, he needs to break people down. but what happens when he is being outlanded 5-1 by pac. its all over.

off balance whatever that jab was clean on the chin at athe right moment he couldnt hold his footing. he tried but the shot was too strong man.

Dude pacquiao will not throw as many punches when he gets clocked with a hard left hook and freaks out on Cottos power.

All fighters that face Cotto end up not throwing so much cause they dont want to get countered to the body or the head. Clottey didnt throw anything in rounds 11-12 because Cottos power was too much for him.

Pacquiao isnt just gonna eat Cottos punches and still keep throwing punches. and outlanding COtto 5-1

[wizard king]

Sometimes people regurgitate what Floyd Sr was saying before the Pacquiao fight: "Timing nullifies speed".

Sorry Sr, but that's complete horse **** as far as I'm concerned, and the reason why is because you cannot time what you cannot see.[/QUOTE]

sr is right you are wrong. you dont have to see what you are timing. its about breaking the rhythm of the fighter and you time your punches so the fighter starts 2nd guessing himself. in both jmm and the first morales fight they broke pac rhythm and guess what happen to pac he didt know what to do he couldt adjust. the problem with pac is he relies on roach plans too much and if that plan fails he is ****ed cause he cant adjust on the fly.

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It was Nacho who also made the call he said "hes too fast for you do you want to continue?"

And De La Hoya used the headache excuse.

He wasnt gonna go down man De La Hoya has taken far harder shots throughout his career to be even phased by a smaller pacquiao who is a natural 135lber

I don't think I've disagreed with anyone as much as this on any forum. I disagree on pretty much everything you've posted in the thread.

Oscar was hurt man, let's not bull**** about this. He was in a daze from the first round, just like Hatton, and just like Marquez when he started walking to the wrong corner. Pacquiao hurts you. I don't understand how anyone can argue against this.



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[fightingfigs]

I don't like it when people think they know me. I've seen tons of Cotto fights. He didn't do anything all that different for Clottey. He had a terrible hole in his guard most of the way through and was getting tagged like a mother****er. IF he used a different approach, it didn't work very well because he almost lost the fight. Many people think he did lose it. He is lucky as hell to get that knockdown when Clottey was off-balance. That was the difference between losing and winning, IMO.

First off That Jab was on the chin and hit him hard he couldnt keep his footing because his legs left him for a second . dont down that hard jab.

Second Clottey shoudlve taken it to Cotto since the eye gash in round 3-4 but couldnt do it because Cotto was too much for him, yea he had some rounds but Cotto was the better fighter. If Clottey got the W for that fight it wouldnt have been right. Cotto deserved that win and dominated CLottey majority of the fight with one eye disabled

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sr is right you are wrong. you dont have to see what you are timing. its about breaking the rhythm of the fighter and you time your punches so the fighter starts 2nd guessing himself. in both jmm and the first morales fight they broke pac rhythm and guess what happen to pac he didt know what to do he couldt adjust. the problem with pac is he relies on roach plans too much and if that plan fails he is ****ed cause he cant adjust on the fly.

Pacquiao does not have a repetitive rhythm. I should know, I'm a drummer!

Good luck on breaking his rhythm up. Dude is syncopated as hell.



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[fightingfigs]

I don't think I've disagreed with anyone as much as this on any forum. I disagree on pretty much everything you've posted in the thread.

Oscar was hurt man, let's not bull**** about this. He was in a daze from the first round, just like Hatton, and just like Marquez when he started walking to the wrong corner. Pacquiao hurts you. I don't understand how anyone can argue against this.

HAHAHAHA De la Hoya was dazed??? Oh brother even my filipno friends who are die hard *******s said that De La hoya just gave up because he was getting embarrassed not because he was hurt at all.

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off balance whatever that jab was clean on the chin at athe right moment he couldnt hold his footing. he tried but the shot was too strong man.

Dude pacquiao will not throw as many punches when he gets clocked with a hard left hook and freaks out on Cottos power.

All fighters that face Cotto end up not throwing so much cause they dont want to get countered to the body or the head. Clottey didnt throw anything in rounds 11-12 because Cottos power was too much for him.

Pacquiao isnt just gonna eat Cottos punches and still keep throwing punches. and outlanding COtto 5-1

speed is the key. cotto has timing but not on the level of floyd or marquez. he trys to box but thats not really suited to him. he tends to fade also when he starts retreating you dont see pac beating the **** out of him.

[fightingfigs]

HAHAHAHA De la Hoya was dazed??? Oh brother even my filipno friends who are die hard *******s said that De La hoya just gave up because he was getting embarrassed not because he was hurt at all.

De la Hoya was an Icon and to be embarrased a full 12 rounder with a natural 135lber wouldve devastated his legacy. too bad it already did but never the less he just wanted an out of the fight. nacho gave it to him.

If he was hurt he wouldve said it in the corner before he gave up. He used a Bull**** headache excuse cmon man De La Hoya had full steam in all rounds he just couldnt figure pac out and get past the speed.

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First off That Jab was on the chin and hit him hard he couldnt keep his footing because his legs left him for a second . dont down that hard jab.

Second Clottey shoudlve taken it to Cotto since the eye gash in round 3-4 but couldnt do it because Cotto was too much for him, yea he had some rounds but Cotto was the better fighter. If Clottey got the W for that fight it wouldnt have been right. Cotto deserved that win and dominated CLottey majority of the fight with one eye disabled

I agree on Cotto deserving the win, plus I put a bet on him. Clottey didn't do enough.

Just look at the knockdown again, though. Clottey was moving his legs and was off balance before the shot even connected. If that jab was so hardcore, how come Clottey took huge bombs from Cotto throughout the fight and didn't even flinch?

The knockdown was due to Clottey's balance, not Cotto's power. It's really obvious.



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