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  • Dynamite Kid
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    Who has more heart Joe Calzaghe or Fraud Mayweather

    Who has more heart Joe Calzaghe or Fraud Mayweather ?

    I gotta be honest as much as i dislike Joe and Floyd, Joe has nearly always looked to close like a Champion in his biggest fights and he has fought with his heart on his sleeve against the likes of Eubank,Mitchell,Brewer,Reid.

    Im not just talking about fighting in an aggressive style, im also talking about closing the show when your opponent is begging for you to put your foot down and impose yourself because you have everything your own way.

    Baldomir performance was a perfect example of why Floyd lacks Championship heart.

    Whitaker is as technical/defensive as Floyd but he had waaaay more heart than Floyd, as evident in his fight with Roger Mayweather and other fights throughout his career.


    No ******* allowed to say they both have heart, one MUST have more than the other
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    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    Who has more heart Joe Calzaghe or Fraud Mayweather ?

    I gotta be honest as much as i dislike Joe and Floyd, Joe has nearly always looked to close like a Champion in his biggest fights and he has fought with his heart on his sleeve against the likes of Eubank,Mitchell,Brewer,Reid.

    Im not just talking about fighting in an aggressive style, im also talking about closing the show when your opponent is begging for you to put your foot down and impose yourself because you have everything your own way.

    Baldomir performance was a perfect example of why Floyd lacks Championship heart.

    Whitaker is as technical/defensive as Floyd but he had waaaay more heart than Floyd, as evident in his fight with Roger Mayweather and other fights throughout his career.


    No ******* allowed to say they both have heart, one MUST have more than the other
    What was Floyd supposed to do with Baldomir???...Vernon Forrest hit that mofo with punches that had Shane hollerin for his mama....and we all know how tough Shane is.

    Floyd did bust Carlos up pretty good...just look at his face after the fight.

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      I think it's a little silly to question Floyd's heart. His motivation and desire, yes. But heart? Come on. This is a guy who fought Hernandez, Manfredy, Augustus, Chavez, Corrales and Castillo twice, pretty much in succession. That takes a big pair of cojones. And you can't question his heart in the ring either--look at how he reacted when stunned by Corley, or how he fought in a phone booth against Castillo in the latter rounds of that first fight.

      Floyd may have lost his mojo when he left 135 but you don't lose heart.

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        Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
        Who has more heart Joe Calzaghe or Fraud Mayweather ?

        I gotta be honest as much as i dislike Joe and Floyd, Joe has nearly always looked to close like a Champion in his biggest fights and he has fought with his heart on his sleeve against the likes of Eubank,Mitchell,Brewer,Reid.

        Im not just talking about fighting in an aggressive style, im also talking about closing the show when your opponent is begging for you to put your foot down and impose yourself because you have everything your own way.

        Baldomir performance was a perfect example of why Floyd lacks Championship heart.

        Whitaker is as technical/defensive as Floyd but he had waaaay more heart than Floyd, as evident in his fight with Roger Mayweather and other fights throughout his career.


        No ******* allowed to say they both have heart, one MUST have more than the other
        Floyd never fought the LOSER of an elimination bout...unlike Joe.

        Floyd won his first title at 21...what was Joe doing when he was 21??

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          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          I think it's a little silly to question Floyd's heart. His motivation and desire, yes. But heart? Come on. This is a guy who fought Hernandez, Manfredy, Augustus, Chavez, Corrales and Castillo twice, pretty much in succession. That takes a big pair of cojones. And you can't question his heart in the ring either--look at how he reacted when stunned by Corley, or how he fought in a phone booth against Castillo in the latter rounds of that first fight.

          Floyd may have lost his mojo when he left 135 but you don't lose heart.
          How did he lose his mofo when he left 135?????

          That **** is ******.

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            Originally posted by Deja_Vous
            What was Floyd supposed to do with Baldomir???...Vernon Forrest hit that mofo with punches that had Shane hollerin for his mama....and we all know how tough Shane is.

            Floyd did bust Carlos up pretty good...just look at his face after the fight.

            No one expected him to stop Baldy, but you know exactly what im talking about ,he refused to close the show and show that Championship heart that ALL great fighters have had from Larry Holmes to Ray Leonard.

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              hard to say. both have big hearts. both refuse to lose, and i have never seen eighter one budge. then again i never seen eighter one in a real war eighter, but it think they would both pull thru.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                How did he lose his mofo when he left 135?????

                That **** is ******.
                His mofo? I don't know but his mojo ain't been the same since 135 lol. Sorry dude, his quality of opp at 140 and 147 doesn't do it for me.

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                  well i seen calzhage down before other than the b-hop jones fight (tho that fighter he fought was REALLY REALLY sloppy in his technique) so his heart isn't questionable to me.


                  floyd never been in a situation that he might lose other than the jose luis castillo fight when he could had loss but got the SD victory.

                  so if i had a choice i go with mayweather only cause he might be like tyson and don't know what to do when he get KD (if he get KD)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I think it's a little silly to question Floyd's heart. His motivation and desire, yes. But heart? Come on. This is a guy who fought Hernandez, Manfredy, Augustus, Chavez, Corrales and Castillo twice, pretty much in succession. That takes a big pair of cojones. And you can't question his heart in the ring either--look at how he reacted when stunned by Corley, or how he fought in a phone booth against Castillo in the latter rounds of that first fight.

                    Floyd may have lost his mojo when he left 135 but you don't lose heart.

                    IMDAZED i agree with you most the time but Dude!!!

                    Heart imo is the full package and it includes closing the show and fighting like a Champion to assert your superiority, and your willingness to fight the best, now i know Joe can be criticized for this to but he has always been a closer.


                    The Burton fight was not even an exceptionally tough fight imo, so i dont get that.

                    It does not take balls to face off against the likes of Manfredy,Burton. No doubt Floyd earned him stripes early in his career fighting Corrales/Castillo but its almost as though his career ended after that.
                    Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 06-18-2009, 08:46 AM.

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