Forget the SIZE issue in boxing!!! BETTER fight ALWAYS WINS!!!!

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  • Peek_A_Boo
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    #1

    Forget the SIZE issue in boxing!!! BETTER fight ALWAYS WINS!!!!

    Ppl say cooto too big for pac blah blah blah IT AIN'T GONA MATTER. Pacquiao is better fighter at the moment and HE WILL WIN.

    People make too much of a deal out of size difference that is not that important.

    Weight issue is also secondary too. People say at 145 cotto might have to kill himseld to make the weight buuuuut if cotto is smart he WILL NOT let himseld BALLOON out so much from now to next training camp time.

    Having to lise lose like 15kilos in 2-3months of training is what kills the fighter. If they are TRUELY dedicated to boxing they would keep themselves around fight weight ALL YEAR ROUND!!!!

    If cotto remains around 147, making 144-145 WILL BE NO PROBLEM WHAT SO EVER!!!!!!!!
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    #2
    Sugar Ray Robinson lost to Joey Maxim.

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    • KILLA RIGHT
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      #3
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Sugar Ray Robinson lost to Joey Maxim.
      There goes his philosophy

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      • El Jesus
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        #4
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Sugar Ray Robinson lost to Joey Maxim.
        that had less to do with size and everything to do with the heat conditions, even the refree took a seat it was so hot. one thing i will say is that it gave bernard hopkins a reason to kick the **** out of tarver. Robinson was winning though. I wouldnt count that as an example.

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        • Chr0nic
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          #5
          lets put pacman in with vitali and see what happens, clearly pacman is more skilled so he should win

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          • BennyST
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            #6
            What's quite funny is that everyone always talks about size being a massive factor with Pac moving up but the only guy that he has fought that has really been bigger is Oscar, who was just dead anyway. He's never really been smaller than anyone he's faced. He won't be much smaller than Cotto either. Less solid, but not smaller as they are actually the same size and reach which is most definitely one of the bigger factors about size and a much more important one in boxing. If you are taller and have a longer reach, you have a huge advantage in boxing, whereas if you are just more solid, that really doesn't mean much unless you know how to use it. Pac also doesn't fight using his bulk so it rarely factors into a fight anyway. In boxing, if you have a height and reach advantage, you have the upper hand immediately, whereas if you are the same height and reach, you don't have any advantage and it all comes down to styles and nothing more. Being more solid isn't going to help if the guy is quicker and can punch as hard and has much better stamina.

            It's funny, but it's never been a factor in any of his fights and yet people keep bringing it up as the biggest factor. It's not like he is Ivan Calderon facing Cazares (5'0", 63" to 5'5", 66") or Roberto Duran facing Iran Barkley (5'6", 66" to 6'1", 74") or Sam Langford facing Harry Wills (5'6" to 6'2") or some ****e like that.

            Hatton wanked on about bigger and stronger and yet he didn't look bigger or stronger (nor was he since he was actually the same height with a shorter reach), and while Cotto I think will look bigger and be a bit stronger it's not going to be some fight changing scenario. Pac now doesn't fight the type of fight in which size becomes the defining factor of the fight, so the constant talk about size is absurd.

            Unless there are noticeable differences in height and reach, which play a much bigger and much more important role in boxing than being more muscly, then it's not of the massive importance that everyone is making it out to be.

            ****e, the size difference between Mayweather and Hatton was more defining than the one between Cotto and Pac will be. Mayweather having a six inch reach advantage on a guy that is constantly coming in with no defense is always going to be a hell of a lot more important than no size difference apart from bulk, which is neither guys fight style anyway. Ridiculous.
            Last edited by BennyST; 06-18-2009, 04:39 AM.

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            • BattlingNelson
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              #7
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              that had less to do with size and everything to do with the heat conditions, even the refree took a seat it was so hot. one thing i will say is that it gave bernard hopkins a reason to kick the **** out of tarver. Robinson was winning though. I wouldnt count that as an example.
              So it was hotter in Robinson's corner?

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                #8
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                So it was hotter in Robinson's corner?
                You gonna act like size had anything to do with robinson being ahead and then retiring?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by El Jesus
                  You gonna act like size had anything to do with robinson being ahead and then retiring?
                  All I'm saying is that the more skilled fighter lost. Hence countering the argument from TS.

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                  • BennyST
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    So it was hotter in Robinson's corner?
                    Originally posted by El Jesus
                    You gonna act like size had anything to do with robinson being ahead and then retiring?
                    You guys are forgetting that Maxim was actually a fair bit taller than Robinson though and had a longer reach and when you are the smaller guy constantly moving away from the taller guy with a longer reach, it is much more tiring than doing the same with someone of the same size. Jabbing up, looking up, having to throw everything up and blocking punches that come from higher is so much more tiring it's not funny. If Maxim was the same height Robinson would have gotten through that last round. Being the taller guy chasing the smaller guy and punching down is not nearly as tiring. Not even close.

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