I ahve said it many times, Bernard Hopkins ruins fighters, and their careers.

[street bully]

Sorry, those fights depress the **** out of me.

Both guys wanting to do something but neither doing it.

And then we had to watch it twice.

I thought for sure, after the first fight late rounds Hop would put it on him, but alas he didn't.

Is Taylor not a damaged fight?

[gibo]

HE RUINS FIGHTER? Last time i checked he lost to MITCHELL, got a gift after getting knocked down twice by MERCADO, LOST big time to RJJ (and has ducked him since) fought "b" rated ALLEN, and ECHOLS more than once, claim his fame beating JR.Middle Weights TITO & delajola. (and now works and follows joya like a lap dog) Lost twice to TAYLOR (who isn't all that) And gets beaten and cried about it by JOE C. YEAH... HE RUINS FIGHTERS

[Guest]

Is Taylor not a damaged fight?

I think Cory Spinks damaged him more.

Taylor never used his talent. The few times he did, he won questionable decisions against Hop.

[deanrw]

Pavlik had a drinking problem way before Hopkins fought him. I mean he even assaulted a cop when drunk and charged at one point.

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

pavlik is the next victim of the x man

hes gonna face abraham and get plastered and thats all she wrote..fighting bums in youngstown for the duration of his career

watch and see...all because he got humiliated by popkins

[deuce_drop]

Segundo Mercado was one of the best MW's of the mid 90's. He fights Hopkins once, and escapes with a life and death draw in his home town during a civil war, he rematches Hopkins gets totally destroyed, becomes damaged goods and levitates in the fringes before he retires. Antwan Echols comes around. The monster punching middleweight KO's his way up the division and gets a shot at Hopkins where he loses a one sided UD and takes a lot of punishment. He works his way back up the division, faces Hopkins a second time, and receives a savage beating at the hands of Hopkins, becomes damaged goods and begins losing to much less fighters. Kieth Holmes was a two time WBC MW champ. He suffered a one sided beating from Hopkins and was forced to pursue a career raping to make up for the heart sore. Then comes Robert Allen. If one fight with Hopkins wasn't bad enough how about 3? He has been done ever since. Tito then comes around the one time undefeated monster puncher gets mentally ****d during the build up, and recieves by far the worst beating of his career and is KO'd for the first time. After this loss he was never the same, forced to retire, and comes back to lose to Winky Wright and Roy Jones. Yet another fighter ruined by the EX man. Howard Eastman then comes by loses to Hopkins, losed his head, and then ends up getting knocked out by the likes of Miranda. Then comes in Taylor. He receives two gift decisions that Hopkins deserved, but no matter because he would go on to get KO'ed by Pavlik and Froch now looking like another shot fighter. Following Taylor comes Tarver. He suffers a humiliating loss at the hands of a 40 year old ex middleweight and then looks to no longer be the same fighter. Winky Wright follows. He suffers a wide decision loss only to come back and lose to a man who was only a few months ago was a welterweight. Then comes Calzaghe who is awarded a contreversal split decision only to go on to beat RJJ, but get knocked down and hurt badly. He then retired probably sensing that a loss would be around the corner. Following Calzaghe comes Kelly Pavlik a middleweight marvel that many thought would go on to be the net great American fighter. Most pundits believed he would not only beat Hopkins, but be the first to knock him out. However the agless Hopkins turned back the clock and gave Pavlik the most humiliating beating of his life. This beating then leads to him not only becoming less of a fighter, but it leads him to turn to alcohol. There is now speculation of him entering alcohol rehab. With this diverse list of fighters either outright ruined physically, and mentally or just not the same after fighting Hopkins only one can assume the fate in store for either Carl Froch or Thomasz Adamek. Will Carl Froch get a sex change? Will Adamek become a heroine addict? Only time will tell, but what everyone should believe is that Bernard Hopkins truly does ruin fighters and careers.

Mercado.
Echols
Allen
Holmes.
Trinidad
Eastman
Taylor
Tarver
Wright
Calzaghe (though he escaped through retiremant)
Pavlik

you forgot undefeated joe lipsey, viciously ko'd by hopkins, never to return to boxing again...........and where is trinidad??? his career went right in the crapper after fighting hopkins........... simon brown never had another win after fighting hopkins. glenn johnson racked up all of his losses after fighting hopkins, johnson is one of the very few to have gotten back on top after losing to hopkins. hopkins takes fighters souls, their fighting soul, their warrior spirit....... at least when it comes to being a competitive fighter.

[street bully]

you forgot undefeated joe lipsey, viciously ko'd by hopkins, never to return to boxing again...........and where is trinidad??? his career went right in the crapper after fighting hopkins........... simon brown never had another win after fighting hopkins. glenn johnson racked up all of his losses after fighting hopkins, johnson is one of the very few to have gotten back on top after losing to hopkins. hopkins takes fighters souls, their fighting soul, their warrior spirit....... at least when it comes to being a competitive fighter.

You're right Lipsey was the Kelly Pavlik of the 90's KOing everybody in his path before Hopkins got his hands on him.

[Mr. Philadel]

Segundo Mercado was one of the best MW's of the mid 90's. He fights Hopkins once, and escapes with a life and death draw in his home town during a civil war, he rematches Hopkins gets totally destroyed, becomes damaged goods and levitates in the fringes before he retires. Antwan Echols comes around. The monster punching middleweight KO's his way up the division and gets a shot at Hopkins where he loses a one sided UD and takes a lot of punishment. He works his way back up the division, faces Hopkins a second time, and receives a savage beating at the hands of Hopkins, becomes damaged goods and begins losing to much less fighters. Kieth Holmes was a two time WBC MW champ. He suffered a one sided beating from Hopkins and was forced to pursue a career raping to make up for the heart sore. Then comes Robert Allen. If one fight with Hopkins wasn't bad enough how about 3? He has been done ever since. Tito then comes around the one time undefeated monster puncher gets mentally ****d during the build up, and recieves by far the worst beating of his career and is KO'd for the first time. After this loss he was never the same, forced to retire, and comes back to lose to Winky Wright and Roy Jones. Yet another fighter ruined by the EX man. Howard Eastman then comes by loses to Hopkins, losed his head, and then ends up getting knocked out by the likes of Miranda. Then comes in Taylor. He receives two gift decisions that Hopkins deserved, but no matter because he would go on to get KO'ed by Pavlik and Froch now looking like another shot fighter. Following Taylor comes Tarver. He suffers a humiliating loss at the hands of a 40 year old ex middleweight and then looks to no longer be the same fighter. Winky Wright follows. He suffers a wide decision loss only to come back and lose to a man who was only a few months ago was a welterweight. Then comes Calzaghe who is awarded a contreversal split decision only to go on to beat RJJ, but get knocked down and hurt badly. He then retired probably sensing that a loss would be around the corner. Following Calzaghe comes Kelly Pavlik a middleweight marvel that many thought would go on to be the net great American fighter. Most pundits believed he would not only beat Hopkins, but be the first to knock him out. However the agless Hopkins turned back the clock and gave Pavlik the most humiliating beating of his life. This beating then leads to him not only becoming less of a fighter, but it leads him to turn to alcohol. There is now speculation of him entering alcohol rehab. With this diverse list of fighters either outright ruined physically, and mentally or just not the same after fighting Hopkins only one can assume the fate in store for either Carl Froch or Thomasz Adamek. Will Carl Froch get a sex change? Will Adamek become a heroine addict? Only time will tell, but what everyone should believe is that Bernard Hopkins truly does ruin fighters and careers.

Mercado.
Echols
Allen
Holmes.
Trinidad
Eastman
Taylor
Tarver
Wright
Calzaghe (though he escaped through retiremant)
Pavlik

now this is a post.....accurate as B-Hop's str8 right hand.......they wont let me hit you with some green but its all good!!......what other boxer has a graveyard this big?

[The Gully Gad]

He ruins fighters but not on the level of a Tito..

Tito would ruin fighters

lol

[Mr. Philadel]

He ruins fighters but not on the level of a Tito..

Tito would ruin fighters

lol

Tito tore David Reid up something wicked!!