Klitschkos that good...or Heavyweight Division that bad?

**White_Bread** · 06-17-2009, 01:00 PM

Its a mix of both really, they are great, but not as great as they would be against powerhouses before

**Davros?** · 06-17-2009, 01:02 PM

There good fighters but not great, the division is weak but that isn't there fault.

**Burner** · 06-17-2009, 01:03 PM

Theyre not very good...just bigger and stronger then everyone else basically.

**gingeralbino** · 06-17-2009, 01:11 PM

bit of both for sure.

They are so far in front of the rest of the current heavyweights its hard to tell how good they really are. The rest of the division is ****, that isnt up for debate imo. But they havent been REALLY tested in years. When a fighter is in trouble the top quality ones can pull another 10-15% out of their ass and get the job done. The best can raise their game when they have to. The Klits havent had to raise their game for years, but when they had to in the past, both brothers failed. However they are more experianced now, and while Vitali has went downhill, Wlad has improved. Who knows what they are capable of now when the fights not going their way.

They'd give most of the heavyweight greats a damn good fight, but would lose to alomst them all imo (Wlad more so than Vitali, Vitali is a lot less likely to get KOd)

**Axl Rose** · 06-17-2009, 01:12 PM

Look what Vitali did with Lewis. He was ahead on every scorecard, and dont say Lewis wasnt in hes prime.

I think Vitali is one of the best in the history. He has never been down, and the two losses he has has both been on in juries.

He is big and highly skilled.
i dont think wladimir is that good, weaker chin

**fightfan_79** · 06-17-2009, 01:13 PM

I guess another question I would have is:
How would either do against a "prime" Hollyfield? If Evander was able to have wars with Rid****, where he gave up around 20-30lbs....do you think he would be able to "give 'em the bizness?"

I think Hollyfield would would easily UD either or even pull a late round stoppage considering what a beast the Real Deal was....what you guys think?

**Deja_Vous** · 06-17-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Axl Rose

Look what Vitali did with Lewis. He was ahead on every scorecard, and dont say Lewis wasnt in hes prime.

I think Vitali is one of the best in the history. He has never been down, and the two losses he has has both been on in juries.

He is big and highly skilled.
i dont think wladimir is that good, weaker chin

**sylvestersweet** · 06-17-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Axl Rose

Look what Vitali did with Lewis. He was ahead on every scorecard, and dont say Lewis wasnt in hes prime.

I think Vitali is one of the best in the history. He has never been down, and the two losses he has has both been on in juries.

He is big and highly skilled.
i dont think wladimir is that good, weaker chin

He wasn't in his prime. Not only that he was grossly under conditioned for the fight.
I say Vitali could stand a chance against Tyson who's known to be careless, but he and Wlad would lose terribly to a prime Lewis and Holyfield.

**beez721** · 06-17-2009, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by fightfan_79

I guess another question I would have is:
How would either do against a "prime" Hollyfield? If Evander was able to have wars with Rid****, where he gave up around 20-30lbs....do you think he would be able to "give 'em the bizness?"

I think Hollyfield would would easily UD either or even pull a late round stoppage considering what a beast the Real Deal was....what you guys think?

lol,,he lost 2 out of 3 to bowe and bowe was a softie for his size. both klits would beat evander. he'd have big trouble with the jab

Klitschkos that good...or Heavyweight Division that bad?