Why MMA is starting to regularly do better PPVs than Boxing

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  • mrpain81
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    #21
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
    For a sport that started in 1989, you cannot tell me that it isn't catching up to boxing. It took boxing 100 years to get like it is now, it took MMA roughly 19 years to get to where it is now. Which is right on the heels of boxing.

    Perro even had a theory to why Mayweather-Marquez was postponed. Which makes complete sense. If people forked all their cash over on UFC 100, what would Marquez-Mayweather's buys be? Exactly.

    MMA isn't doing better than Boxing in 1 PPV event BUT when you have consistently good PPV buys, its all gonna add up sooner or later.
    That's ******, Boxing used to be much more popular then it is today. Also fighters in the 1920's were making what the Top MMA fighters make today.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Ryn0
      Some of you are too sensative, acting as if I attacked Boxing or something.
      MMA in general has woke up boxing and has caused them to up their game. I'm a fan of both sports and as long as I see good fights, I'm happy.

      But the butthurt boxing hardcores are mad for apparently no reason. Either they are dumb because they don't understand what MMA is or they are butthurt because they aren't the only combat sport in existence

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        #23
        Originally posted by mrpain81
        That's ******, Boxing used to be much more popular then it is today. Also fighters in the 1920's were making what the Top MMA fighters make today.
        Yeah, thats one downside to the UFC's promotion and stranglehold. The fighters get paid relative peanuts for what they do.

        But you have to admit the way the UFC is going about promoting and setting up their PPVs is good. You don't have to enjoy watching MMA but that much you have to agree on.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ryn0
          Bloody hell, all I was doing was using the UFC's promotion and cards as an example of how Boxing could take their PPVs and fights to the mainstream and much bigger steadier PPV numbers.

          For example Marquez-Vazquez DESERVED to get much more viewers than it did putting a stacked card on a fight like that would guarantee some new Boxing fans.


          Some of you are too sensative, acting as if I attacked Boxing or something.
          But thats impossible. Boxing would be able to do that if there was one sanctioning body, and every fighter was under Top Rank. Than they would do what UFC does, and that's the only way it would be possible.

          You can't just say "boxing should do what UFC does" cause it's literally impossible.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ryn0
            Yeah, thats one downside to the UFC's promotion and stranglehold. The fighters get paid relative peanuts for what they do.

            But you have to admit the way the UFC is going about promoting and setting up their PPVs is good. You don't have to enjoy watching MMA but that much you have to agree on.
            Don King did the same thing and they called him a crook, Dana White does it and they call him a genius. There is a reason why the UFC doesn't want MMA to fall under the same rules of Boxing when it comes to the Ali act, his contracts would be illegal in Boxing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by mrpain81
              That's ******, Boxing used to be much more popular then it is today. Also fighters in the 1920's were making what the Top MMA fighters make today.
              How is it ******? A sport that has been around for just about 20 years and making a huge splash in the market isn't incredible?

              UFC pays their fighters crap and then lock them up so they cant fight anywhere else. But its impossible to become a big name in the US without fighting in UFC. Dana is a white Don King.

              DREAM dished out 10mill to Joachim Hansen when he won the Lightweight tournament.

              UFC would not pay that for anything.

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                #27
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                How is it ******? A sport that has been around for just about 20 years and making a huge splash in the market isn't incredible?

                UFC pays their fighters crap and then lock them up so they cant fight anywhere else.

                DREAM dished out 10mill to Joachim Hansen when he won the Lightweight tournament.

                UFC would not pay that for anything.
                You have to be ******ed to believe that.

                And Boxing used to the be one of the top 3 most popular sports in America along with Horse racing and Baseball, I don't see MMA being anywhere near the top sports in America.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  But thats impossible. Boxing would be able to do that if there was one sanctioning body, and every fighter was under Top Rank. Than they would do what UFC does, and that's the only way it would be possible.

                  You can't just say "boxing should do what UFC does" cause it's literally impossible.
                  I know it's impossible but it's not impossible to copy some aspects of their promotion.

                  If you had say Pacquiao-Marquez II (which did what 300-400k?) A fairly big fight with good numbers. I think it was promoted by Top rank. Why not have David Diaz on a televised undercard on PPV (he is under top rank) he might not be a great fighter but he's exciting and a name to the boxing hardcore, and say put Viloria on there he wasn't champ at the time get him to fight a tune-up. You could stack the card up with fights like this against opposition that will either gurantee KO'd or exciting fights.

                  Don't use Yuri Foreman to help promote a card for example

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ryn0
                    I know it's impossible but it's not impossible to copy some aspects of their promotion.

                    If you had say Pacquiao-Marquez II (which did what 300-400k?) A fairly big fight with good numbers. I think it was promoted by Top rank. Why not have David Diaz on a televised undercard on PPV (he is under top rank) he might not be a great fighter but he's exciting and a name to the boxing hardcore, and say put Viloria on there he wasn't champ at the time get him to fight a tune-up. You could stack the card up with fights like this against opposition that will either gurantee KO'd or exciting fights.

                    Don't use Yuri Foreman to help promote a card for example
                    I mean, I agree that undercards need to improve, but to make relevant fights on undercards of PPV's would reallyyyyy be stretching budgets.

                    I mean, christ, there was a lineal title on the line at the Cotto fight that didn't get televised. Why? Cause of money. UFC fighters make dog ****, and White owns all their asses, that's why he can do it.

                    I bet Machida made like 400K for the Evans fight. And I bet some of the televised undercard guys made like 10K. You just can't do that stuff in boxing.

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                      #30
                      who cares .

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