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  • RRICAN
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
    he's fine.

    clottey is an elite fighter.

    having the cut and not being able to see DOES affect how one fights you know.



    if pacquiao does beat cotto , i expect nothing less than people saying cotto was weight drained and shot.

    if they make cotto go down to 144 i will say that, if manny wants to fight cotto this fight need to happen at 147 or it will be BS!!!!

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    • Silencers
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      #12
      I don't think so, he couldn't have fought that kind of fight and beaten Clottey if he was on the decline IMO.

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      • Del Coqui
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        #13
        Originally posted by rape
        i'll tell you why he's not.

        since his questionable loss to margarito who has he fought?

        michael jennings. it was a confidence booster of a fight and nothing more. he blew the guy out and let him last longer than he needed to. he could have put the guy away early but wanted to give people there moneys worth. he looked like regular old cotto.

        against clottey we have the issue of the cut over the eye and he wasn't really able to fight his fight. you didn't get to see how he would perform against serious opposition. they were still in the warm up and feeling out early rounds of the fight so cotto never really got into his rhythm or got a chance to try to learn clottey and build an attack around what he was dealing with. he spent the entire fight trying to preserve his eye and keep it clear of blood while trying to thwart a forever approaching clottey.

        so honestly we still have no ability to judge if cotto is still the same dude.

        hopefully against pacquiao no cuts occur and it lasts longer than 5 rounds.

        then we can determine if cotto is still the man he used to be.
        I'm not sure what you just said, but PLS don't get rid of that sig!!!!

        Anyway, on the topic, he's gotten better, he was able to make weight for the fight, his face was as bloody as in the Margo fight and he couldn't see those right hands coming, hard to counter with hooks when taking those rights. He looked better imo.

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        • WhoreUs
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          #14
          Originally posted by RRICAN
          if they make cotto go down to 144 i will say that, if manny wants to fight cotto this fight need to happen at 147 or it will be BS!!!!
          bull****. just excuses.

          he made 146. he can make 144.



          have confidence in your fighter. you guys are already trying to come up with excuses.

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          • -Lowkey-
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            #15
            Originally posted by RRICAN
            if they make cotto go down to 144 i will say that, if manny wants to fight cotto this fight need to happen at 147 or it will be BS!!!!
            yeah i agree also for manny maybe he can beat cotto at 147 who knows but if he beats a weight drained cotto he wont get half as much credit so 147 is a win win i think

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mr._Pink
              bull****. just excuses.

              he made 146. he can make 144.



              have confidence in your fighter. you guys are already trying to come up with excuses.
              well if cotto himself thinks he can make 144 and not be affected he should go for it im sceptical

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by LightsOutLewis
                ok so ive heard alot of guys talking like cotto is now passed his best and starting to decline im a cotto fan i would like to give him the benefit of the doubt due to getting cut early which clearly effected him what do u guys think? honest opinions please...
                cotto is not past his best or on the decline. he's taking on tougher opponents, that's why he looks so regular. cotto was never invincible and not that good.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  cotto is not past his best or on the decline. he's taking on tougher opponents, that's why he looks so regular. cotto was never invincible and not that good.
                  i wouldnt say he is not that good to be considered an elite fighter you have to be that good

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                  • WhoreUs
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LightsOutLewis
                    well if cotto himself thinks he can make 144 and not be affected he should go for it im sceptical
                    people are overreacting after the delahoya fight.

                    after that fight every fan is worried about their favorite fighter being weight drained.

                    oscar wasn't even weight drained. he was under weight/overtrained/overdieted

                    the limit for oscar-forces was 150. 3 lbs. shouldn't have made a difference.

                    the problem with oscar was not the 147 limit.

                    he could have cut to 147 and blown back up to 155-160.

                    the problem was his dumbass decided to come in at 147 on fight night instead of cutting weight like he normally does he decided to diet and keep his weight low weeks before the fight.

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                    • (Fowler)
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                      he's fine.

                      clottey is an elite fighter.

                      having the cut and not being able to see DOES affect how one fights you know.



                      if pacquiao does beat cotto , i expect nothing less than people saying cotto was weight drained and shot.
                      you wrote da exact same thing I waz thinkin Mr.P

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