Who "deserves" more of a rematch: Clottey or Collazo

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  • warp1432
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    Who "deserves" more of a rematch: Clottey or Collazo

    Vote in the poll. Who deserves more of a rematch Clottey against Cotto or Collazo against Berto?
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    Clottey against Cotto
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    Collazo against Berto
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  • The Gambler1981
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    Intersting question, I am going to say Collazo. I am going with Collazo because he did not have the major advantage of a huge gash over his opponents eye, to me with the situation Cotto was in Clottey blew his golden chance and in a rematch he is unlikely to get that same advantage (even if Clottey was to cut Cotto in the rematch, I have to think it would not be as severe).

    Collazo on the other hand fought Berto comming off a long layoff and he really did not have any unforseen advantages. So I think it is more likely that Collazo could improve on what he did (atleast not fade as badly in the championship rounds).

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    • Dorian
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      ***shua Clottey.

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        These fights were very similar, I think its better question to say which fight was closer. I find it funny how some people can say Cotto won clearly by winning the late rounds against Clottey, but also claim Collazo beat Berto when he gave away the same rounds.

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          #5
          Originally posted by egreezy
          These fights were very similar, I think its better question to say which fight was closer. I find it funny how some people can say Cotto won clearly by winning the late rounds against Clottey, but also claim Collazo beat Berto when he gave away the same rounds.
          Since when does landing a few punches in the last 20 seconds win Cotto the late rounds. FFs he landed 7 to Clotteys 20 in the 11th and people say Cotto won the round? How the **** is that

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          • warp1432
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            Originally posted by street bully
            Since when does landing a few punches in the last 20 seconds win Cotto the late rounds. FFs he landed 7 to Clotteys 20 in the 11th and people say Cotto won the round? How the **** is that
            Because punch stats aren't accurate. No one really did work. Clottey may have landed clean, but they weren't that good of the punches and he was inactive. Cotto was landing through the guard and landed pretty good at the end of the round, well that's round 10. Round 11 was similar though.

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              #7
              Originally posted by street bully
              Since when does landing a few punches in the last 20 seconds win Cotto the late rounds. FFs he landed 7 to Clotteys 20 in the 11th and people say Cotto won the round? How the **** is that
              Because he won...get over it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by warp1432
                Because punch stats aren't accurate. No one really did work. Clottey may have landed clean, but they weren't that good of the punches and he was inactive. Cotto was landing through the guard and landed pretty good at the end of the round, well that's round 10. Round 11 was similar though.
                Those stats were accurate. Clottey landed a lot more in round 10 and 11 and he was chasing his man forcing him to retreat....basically he was the ring general, the effective aggressor, the more accurate puncher who landed more, and was the one doing the damage in the 10th and 11th. Unless your going to score a round based on two big left hooks from Cotto at the bell. while negating Clotteys work, I don't see how Cotto won the 10th and 11th.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BOOMbip
                  Because he won...get over it.
                  They won't get over it. That is what the haters in this forum do ***** like ****.

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                  • warp1432
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                    Originally posted by street bully
                    Those stats were accurate. Clottey landed a lot more in round 10 and 11 and he was chasing his man forcing him to retreat....basically he was the ring general, the effective aggressor, the more accurate puncher who landed more, and was the one doing the damage in the 10th and 11th. Unless your going to score a round based on two big left hooks from Cotto at the bell. while negating Clotteys work, I don't see how Cotto won the 10th and 11th.
                    Ring Generalship is a **** term and so vague. Just because Cotto was backing up, doesn't mean he wasn't in control. He just moved out of the way at the right time. He was getting blasted with right hands after every combo, so he started moving to avoid it. That's smart d.

                    Really there was not much to choose from and the 2 big hooks do make a case for Cotto because they were the best punches of the round in which nothing really happened.

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