Arum Tells Mayweather To Drop High Pacquiao Demand

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For your Info to help you understand about some boxing records...

Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History

1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million
18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million
19. Manny Pacquiao (12/09) 1.25 million buys = $70.0 million

USA Today 4/28/2009...And in the red corner, weighing in at 140 pounds, the world's 22nd most influential person Manny Pacquiao. . .

Time magazine does indeed rank Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao as the individual with the 22nd most pull on the globe, in its annual World's Most Influential Person list. (Photo by Gabriel Bouys/AFP/Getty Images)

Among all sports figures, that puts the pound-for-pound champion second, behind overall No. 9 Kobe Bryant. And, as Pacquiao preps for Saturday's brawl with Ricky Hatton, he can enter the ring knowing he's loved, having attracted the most online votes, at 20,391,818.

[WESS]

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[Dave Rado]

PBF wont fight mosley, cotto, williams because they have a chance to beat him, RESUME wise the "FIGHTER OF THE DECADE" will be PACMAN, where do you think the people that decide will base this recognition? fighters technical ability? nope, heart? nope, they will based it on the fighters "BODY OF WORK(RESUME) IN THAT PERIOD" look at the people they fought in this decade and tell me FLOYD will be FOTD?

No it's not that simple. Résumé counts for a lot, but quality in the ring counts for a lot as well. Most ATG lists have Joe Louis above Ali, even though Ali had a far better résumé. Dempsey had a crap résumé but is ranked very highly in most ATG lists. Mayweather will certainly be ranked very highly in the ATG lists when he retires. If he stayed retired now, he'd be in the top 50 at least. If he beats Pac, Mosley and Cotto, he'd be in the top 20. If he beat all those fighters plus Williams, he might even crack the top 10.

[Dave Rado]

USA Today 4/28/2009...And in the red corner, weighing in at 140 pounds, the world's 22nd most influential person Manny Pacquiao. . .

Time magazine does indeed rank Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao as the individual with the 22nd most pull on the globe, in its annual World's Most Influential Person list. (Photo by Gabriel Bouys/AFP/Getty Images)

Among all sports figures, that puts the pound-for-pound champion second, behind overall No. 9 Kobe Bryant. And, as Pacquiao preps for Saturday's brawl with Ricky Hatton, he can enter the ring knowing he's loved, having attracted the most online votes, at 20,391,818.

How influential he is will not influence the purse negotiations. Only how much money he can bring to the table. Most of his fans in the Philippines can't afford to pay for PPV, and they watch his fights on free to air television. So although they idolise him, they bring relatively little money to the table.

He's still a huge draw but not nearly as big a draw as he would be if the Philippines was a rich country.

That's just life.

But it's obvious that both fighters deserve 50/50 and Arum is being an idiot for pretending otherwise. He's in danger of killing the fight by making demands that Floyd's pride could never possibly allow him to accept - it could end up like the Hopkins-Jones rematch if he isn't careful, and that would be bad for boxing, because nearly everyone wants to see this fight.

[Dave Rado]

Nothing to try hard to make him the best, actually Pac tried it so easy to be the best by knocking out Hatton in 2 while ur boy Floyd tried it hard in 10 & Pac made it easy a one sided beating in 8 tko while ur boy Floyd tried it hard in a split decision..."Fighter of the Year Manny Pacquiao by Boxing Writers Association of America"...ha..ha..ha

You're being very biased. De La Hoya at 154 is not comparable to De La Hoya at 147, who was only able to put on 2lb between the weigh in and the fight, and was the lighter man on the night; plus he had already shown signs of serious ageing in the Forbes fight, which is why Freddie said he couldn't pull the trigger any more. And Valero beat him up in sparring. It was still a great win for Manny but don't pretend he was the same fighter that Floyd beat, because you lose all your credibility when you say things like that.

As for their relative performances against Hatton, styles make fights. Foreman destroyed Frazier, then Ali destroyed Foreman, but Ali-Frazier III was the toughest fight of Ali's life. Mayweather-Pac would be the toughest fight of Pac's career so far, and Floyd would be the favourite. Although Pac might surprise everyone again, and win against the odds, it would be against the odds.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

No it's not that simple. Résumé counts for a lot, but quality in the ring counts for a lot as well. Most ATG lists have Joe Louis above Ali, even though Ali had a far better résumé. Dempsey had a crap résumé but is ranked very highly in most ATG lists. Mayweather will certainly be ranked very highly in the ATG lists when he retires. If he stayed retired now, he'd be in the top 50 at least. If he beats Pac, Mosley and Cotto, he'd be in the top 20. If he beat all those fighters plus Williams, he might even crack the top 10.

Really dave?

most atg list either has ali at 2# or 3#. Its usually ray robinson at 1, then either henry armstrong or ali second.

[The Gambler1981]

I do agree that it should end up as 50/50 (or atleast close enough that it doesn't matter, someone might want to say they got $1 more or somethign along those lines). I do understand why both sides would want to start off at 60/40 each way because if they entered negotiations at 50/50 they can never get more then 50/50, if they start with higher demands they can always go to 50/50 or anywhere inbetween.

In the end I say it ends up 50/50, to many zeros, ones, twos and fives in the theoretical revenue compared to other possible fights for them to really scrap this over percentage points.

Let say this fight generates $100 million, take out expenses I bet they would split 75-80 million, talking that ammount of cash I could see why very few percentage points could wreck any deal but I have to think they would do everything to get this fight made (as long as they are thinking with cool heads in the negotiating room, if it becomes a **** measuring contest all bets are off).

[Dave Rado]

Really dave?

most atg list either has ali at 2# or 3#. Its usually ray robinson at 1, then either henry armstrong or ali second.

For example:

Bert Sugar's 2006 top 100 P4P list:

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pep
4 Joe Louis
5 Harry Greb
6 Benny Leonard
7 Muhammad Ali

Monte D. Cox's top 20 Heavyweight ATG list:

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali

I agree there are other lists that have Ali higher; and most boxing historians think they are really pretty well tied for first place in the heavyweight ATG list.

For example Cox writes:

Muhammad Ali beat the highest class of competition in heavyweight history. He had incredible physical gifts, which were his phenomenal speed, a great chin and razor sharp reflexes. Fundamentally he was flawed having never learned the rudiments of boxing. Based on his athletic ability and quality of opposition I have no problem with Ali being # 1, although I prefer Louis for his superior technical skills and punching power.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

50/50 is the right thing to do.

I agree all this is posturing. Fraud jr & Pacquiao are not dumb enough to throw away a 3 million ppv hit fight.

[Dave Rado]

(as long as they are thinking with cool heads in the negotiating room, if it becomes a **** measuring contest all bets are off).

That's what worries me. Arum is pretty insecure about the size of his ****, and Floyd isn't much better.