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Mayweather and Pacquiao reached the upper most levels of stardom with their wins over De La Hoya. And that is an old, rusty, past it De La Hoya. Shane Mosley beat a prime De La Hoya, not once, but twice, and his post-DLH career hasnt been anything like Mayweathers and Pacs. I mean Mosley is an exiting fighter so what gives? Could it of been that he followed those 2 wins by 4 losses, all to winky and vernon? Then the loss to cotto? If that is the case, than that sucks what happens when you dont avoid fighters. If he would have avoided winky and vernon, then people would give him ****.
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Shane's time was unfortunately around the same as Oscar's and everyone LOVEDDDD Oscar. -
well he lost 2 times back to back after those oscar fights to forrest..then lost to winky 2 times..so it cause he lostComment
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because he is black.....Comment
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Shane had a nice buzz going when he beat Oscar but he soon lost thereafter. I hate it when people hype up Mosley's fights with Forrest & Winky like he should be given so much credit. Mostly everyone had Shane beating both of those guys pretty easily when they fought. People make it sound like Winky & Vernon were monsters that everyone was scared of and it was supposed to be these super fights. Its not true. I picked both guys to beat Mosley but hardly anyone else did. Most thought that Forrest was a fraud that hadnt fought anyone up until that point and Winky was seen as just a solid guy but not on Mosley's level. Shane didnt jump at these fights either. He tried so hard to leave WW without fighting Forrest but no big name at 154 would fight him so he had to fight Vernon. It was the same for the Winky fight. He was coming off a bunch of losses and subpar performances. He couldnt get the big fights so he had to fight Winky. He looked like crap against both Marquez and was average looking against Oscar in the rematch. He also lost pretty easy to both guys. Its not enough to fight the best but you also have to do somewhat well. He didnt. Even though he was close in the rematches, the fights were never in doubt. The scores were much closer then the fights seemed. He never had a chance in either. Then you have Mayorga straight punking Forrest which made the loss like even worstComment
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and after winky beat him twice shane was basically a has beenComment
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My opinion.....
Shane has had his career only come to fruition late.....had he been surrounded by GBP or had a better promoter back in the day....it would be a different story. The losses TO ME, don't mean anything as to why he isn't a "superstar".....he fought two "bigger" champs...no shame in losing to them...and he rematched them almost immediately....no excuses, no ducking just dusted himself off and went at it against anyone who wanted / was willing to fight him. He just wasn't in any position to do better "negotiating" for his fights....after all...he is a fighter and not as business savvy as Uncle Oscar....After the dust settles...I would put Shane on my top 10 WWs of all time and on the top 50 fighters of all time....
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Because personality wise he offered nothing that was any different from the superstars that were already there at the time, someone already mentioned that oscar and him were basically the same of type of personality, they were from the same area etc. It would have been the same if vargas tried to pull that, oscar was that dude.
Thats why i always laugh when people think fighters should take this "nice guy" approach, it doesnt always work for everyone, shane is a prime example, there were times where he also would churn out these workman like performences when he was under john david jackson and he was also on a Margarito/Cintron undercard, that should tell you where he was at that point in his career.Comment
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Simple, SSM vs Winky and Forrest, Shane took that path rather then facing DLH a 3rd time. He then could have been on his way to a fight against Tito.Comment
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