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  • DuttyAlacrity
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    #301
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    so since cotto doesn't have the money then floyd can duck him right?


    you could make the same excuse for floyd. cotto lost to margo so floyd doesn't have to fight cotto. (not saying that I believe that, just saying it's a hole in the argument).


    that's all very valid points and I agree. floyd should fight mosley and cotto in the near future.

    I also think a champ should clean out his division before moving on unless he can't make weight anymore. but I also believe that its not entirely pbf's fault that some fights didn't come off. also if a champ is given a opportunity he can't refuse, he'd be ****** not to take it.



    I pretty much have to agree. I mean, floyd has to actually fight good fighters to get credit, he can't just win them all on paper and in hypothetical situations.
    THANK YOU I couldn't have said it better myself
    In order solidify is WW stint FLOYD DOES NEED TO FIGHT Cotto, and other top rank WWs (specifically SSM). But let's give it a chance he just came back. I for one, believe that PBF WILL fight Cotto and SSM in the near future. But as far as his stints at 130 and 135, its a lock. I might even want to say at 140 too because we saw what he did to the jww king when they fought. Don't give me that weight crap either cause Hatton walks around heavier than floyd.

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    • buckdacious
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      #302
      Originally posted by vaborikua
      were talking about the one that made floyd retire
      Damn dog, I almost pissed my pants!! HAHAHA

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      • Primal Instinx
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        #303
        Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity
        ... Right so Cotto avoided PWill (the more dangerous hot WW prospect who just dismantled "the most avoided boxer"-margacheato) for a higher profile fight for more money and fame.... I got it. But don't tell me Cotto has taken on all comers because he hasn't and don't attack PBF for doing the same like Pullcounter said:


        Also, don't forget what happened 4 months after in the quintana rematch in the FIRST ROUND.
        so let's do a little timeline:
        PW vs Margo - 7/14/2007
        PW Calls out the entire WW division
        cotto vs SSM - 11/10/2007
        Cotto decided to fight SSM because of popularity, money etc. ok fine what about after the SSM fight? If Team cotto made any inclination to fight PW after SSM, PW wouldn't have fought Quintana on 2/9/2008. There was no one else to fight so he chose to fight his mandatory.

        Alphonso Gomez was chosen (4/12/2008) as a tune up for margocheato... the rest is history

        Cotto is a great fighter and one of my favorite fighters at that but don't give me that "he took on all comers" bull crap 'cause he didn't.
        So Paul and Quintana fight got made after the Shane fight with Cotto??? They were already scheduled to fight before the Shane and Cotto fight. Margarito was scheduled to fight on the undercard of Cotto v Gomez, Hoya was facing forbes in May, and Floyd retired after his december fight...everyone was facing other people. Clottey fought Alvarez in december as well and fought jose luis cruz in april as well. Only person that could have fought Williams is Shane but Shane stated that he was taking vacation that was needed...so should we criticize Cotto or Shane for not fighting Williams...so Williams took on Quintana and lost in February and yes he destroyed Quintana in rematch but that was months later as well.

        Taking everything into consideration; my question to you is who should have Cotto fought differently? Again P.Will just lost in February so there went his chances...everyone else was fighting or scheduled to fight or not fighting.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #304
          Originally posted by Boxeo_Boricua
          So why do you defend Floyd so much if you admit that he ducks good competition?
          because cotto did/is doing to pwill what floyd is doing to cotto. so what goes around comes around? or what's good for the goose is good for the gander?

          also, I don't think floyd is entirely to blame for certain fights not coming off.

          He wants to be recognized as the best but won't fight the best.
          well, as long as he fights cotto and mosley in the near future, I think boxing fans should forgive him.

          I wish I was a millionare to pay Floyd what he wants to fight Mosley, Cotto or Williams.
          I wish you were a millionaire to pay floyd for those fights too.

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            #305
            Originally posted by buckdacious
            Damn dog, I almost pissed my pants!! HAHAHA
            kinda like floyd did when he saw that he either had to fight cotto next or retire

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            • DuttyAlacrity
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              #306
              Originally posted by buckdacious
              come on, im Boricua and I know he wont trash Mayweather. he would be lucky to even win 4 rounds with the way he gets hit. Pacquiao has 2 times the better shot to beat Mayweather then Cotto does
              I would agree with that

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                #307
                Originally posted by Animalistic
                Please...Your post is dumb as ****.
                Why you say that?

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                  #308
                  Originally posted by Primal Instinx
                  So Paul and Quintana fight got made after the Shane fight with Cotto??? They were already scheduled to fight before the Shane and Cotto fight. Margarito was scheduled to fight on the undercard of Cotto v Gomez, Hoya was facing forbes in May, and Floyd retired after his december fight...everyone was facing other people. Clottey fought Alvarez in december as well and fought jose luis cruz in april as well. Only person that could have fought Williams is Shane but Shane stated that he was taking vacation that was needed...so should we criticize Cotto or Shane for not fighting Williams...so Williams took on Quintana and lost in February and yes he destroyed Quintana in rematch but that was months later as well.

                  Taking everything into consideration; my question to you is who should have Cotto fought differently? Again P.Will just lost in February so there went his chances...everyone else was fighting or scheduled to fight or not fighting.
                  exactly and theres an article that they were going to try to make cotto vs williams after williams vs quintana fight but williams lost so cotto went ahead to fight gomez and had an aggreement to fight the winner of marg vs cintron 2 while williams had to get a rematch with quintana and after that cotto vs marg was already gon happen and cotto lost there was no way it coulda happened

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                  • Primal Instinx
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                    #309
                    Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity
                    THANK YOU I couldn't have said it better myself
                    In order solidify is WW stint FLOYD DOES NEED TO FIGHT Cotto, and other top rank WWs (specifically SSM). But let's give it a chance he just came back. I for one, believe that PBF WILL fight Cotto and SSM in the near future. But as far as his stints at 130 and 135, its a lock. I might even want to say at 140 too because we saw what he did to the jww king when they fought. Don't give me that weight crap either cause Hatton walks around heavier than floyd.

                    Nuthuggers and trolls are a waste of my time, I try to only respond to real boxing fans
                    Henry "Who" Bruceles, Arturo "Granpa" Gatti, Sharmba "I can't wait to retire" Mitchell...btw Sharmba did say these words before fighting Floyd and P.Will but was looking to make some money before he retired.

                    These are the guys Floyd faced at 140...hardly the creme of the crop when you had Cotto, Malignaggi, Witter, Hatton, Vivian Harris in the same division...btw...we can talk **** about Witter, and Harris now but at that time those guys were top caliber opponents and now their times have run out so you can't dismiss them by saying oh those guys are garbage...no the people that Floyd faced were over the hill and too green for Floyd to fight compared to the guys available to fight. This is why I can't give props to Floyd winning at 140 division. At 130 and 135 there is no question that he ruled and if I may I can even say Floyd didn't fight everyone at 130 cause he dismissed fighting Acelino Freitas who was the champ there along with Casamayor who was the other champ. Floyd only unified with Corrales. But Freitas and Casamayor would have been very close fights with Floyd which is why again I hate saying this but Floyd has avoided fighting the best available opponents in each division.

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                    • DuttyAlacrity
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                      #310
                      Originally posted by Primal Instinx
                      So Paul and Quintana fight got made after the Shane fight with Cotto??? They were already scheduled to fight before the Shane and Cotto fight. Margarito was scheduled to fight on the undercard of Cotto v Gomez, Hoya was facing forbes in May, and Floyd retired after his december fight...everyone was facing other people. Clottey fought Alvarez in december as well and fought jose luis cruz in april as well. Only person that could have fought Williams is Shane but Shane stated that he was taking vacation that was needed...so should we criticize Cotto or Shane for not fighting Williams...so Williams took on Quintana and lost in February and yes he destroyed Quintana in rematch but that was months later as well.

                      Taking everything into consideration; my question to you is who should have Cotto fought differently? Again P.Will just lost in February so there went his chances...everyone else was fighting or scheduled to fight or not fighting.
                      I understood why he didn't consider the PW fighter after PW lost to Quintana, I don't blame Him for that.
                      But if there was any inclination from team cotto that PW was on their Radar after the SSM fight he probably wouldn't have taken the quintana fight.
                      Look, no one can deny the fact that PW was never in Team Cotto's radar. He just wasn't. PW was the elephant in the room
                      Based on that I can't agree when people say "he took on all-comers" cause he didn't. Other than that he's currently the most accomplished WW right now next to SSM.

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