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  • #41
    Originally posted by 2nd Round KO View Post
    Cotto's Future > Margaritos "Future" (running a taco truck)

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
      so you only believe it was for one fight yet you will believe that Margarito has been doing this for longer than one fight.

      why? because Mosley is an upstanding citizen? well so too is Tony.



      so? those are easy to cheat there are plenty of links on google



      but Mosley made the same excuses over and over until the court docuements revealed he had indeed taken steroids.

      so again why does Mosley get a pass and Margarito don't? also had Mosley beaten Cotto would you now be calling him a cheater much the same way you call Margarito?



      and it was proven Shane had taken steroids provided to him by BALCO

      honestly not trying to get into it with you but it really stinks of hypocrisy or sour g****s when people consistently call Margarito a cheat and yet say little to nothing about Shane or excuse him for the one fight and speculate (because thats all you are doing) that Margarito did it for more than one fight

      they both cheated

      /thread
      Damn man, I would hate to argue with you. You pretty much own just about everyone here lol.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by 2nd Round KO View Post
        The same way Mosley claims he didn't know what he was doing.

        Margarito claimed he didn't know what was being done to his wraps.

        Which is more believable?

        Your trainer using a cream that might be some shady **** and you not knowing.

        or

        Your hands being wrapped two feet in front of you and you not feeling the difference of plaster inserts being utilized in them?
        actually they are both the same

        they both knew I mean to continue to civilly debate this

        Shane changed his supplier of meds, told his strength coach that he is to put this on his board, his trainer obliges. It's not like Shane is new to the world of fitness he was benching 300lbs by age 16

        IMO you believe the Mosley story more because it doesn't effect Cotto at all.

        they both cheated and if you believe one cheated longer but the other didn't because of what they did to a fighter you support it's nothing short of sour g****s

        like I said had Mosley beaten Cotto I bet a lot of Cotto fans would be screaming that he cheated with roids to do it

        much like that rumor about Margarito being on roids that came out too

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        • #44
          I always liked Margarito, because he wasn't a great boxer but could just take it and walk his man down. The significant problem is that without the inserts, he couldn't back up Mosley and so Shane was able to sit down on his punches and crush him. When a guy is heavy handed you don't sit down on your punches, you hit and move, it completely changes your game. So this is the big unknown, were the inserts what made him heavy handed? Is that why Shane was able to crush him like no one else did previously?

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          • #45
            both mosley and margo cheated, but roids hurt the boxers who intend to use them not help them. vargas roided against dlh but got whupped. mosley roided against dlh and had a closer fight than the first one and arguably lost.

            loaded gloves always helps the boxers who intend to use them.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Buckfever View Post
              I always liked Margarito, because he wasn't a great boxer but could just take it and walk his man down. The significant problem is that without the inserts, he couldn't back up Mosley and so Shane was able to sit down on his punches and crush him. When a guy is heavy handed you don't sit down on your punches, you hit and move, it completely changes your game. So this is the big unknown, were the inserts what made him heavy handed? Is that why Shane was able to crush him like no one else did previously?

              Shane's chin is granite, most of his kd were flash and he was up real quick, not to mention Shane is the better fighter who can fight moving back and move his head, but he's still big enough to stand his ground and he does that with all his opponents at one point or another. If Margarito was heavy handed he'd knock people out with one punch, his strength is volume.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                both mosley and margo cheated, but roids hurt the boxers who intend to use them not help them. vargas roided against dlh but got whupped. mosley roided against dlh and had a closer fight than the first one and arguably lost.

                loaded gloves always helps the boxers who intend to use them.
                the roids part is not entirely true you don't always use them to bulk up. I think a lot of people use them to speed up muscle recovery so they can sustain longer workouts. Also HGH is used as well. I mean Cyclists used them for years for the endurance it gave them not the size

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  both mosley and margo cheated, but roids hurt the boxers who intend to use them not help them. vargas roided against dlh but got whupped. mosley roided against dlh and had a closer fight than the first one and arguably lost.

                  loaded gloves always helps the boxers who intend to use them.
                  Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
                  the roids part is not entirely true you don't always use them to bulk up. I think a lot of people use them to speed up muscle recovery so they can sustain longer workouts. Also HGH is used as well. I mean Cyclists used them for years for the endurance it gave them not the size

                  I think they both can cause serious damage to an opponent, if you're on roisds that improve your endurance and muscle recovery, that means you can throw harder, faster punches for much longer which could seriously damage a fighter. both are wrong, but if one's career continued then so should the other's.

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                  • #49
                    also for those who are saying Cotto should be undefeated does Oscar also enjoy the luxury of taking back his loss against the cheating Shane?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by eaner0919 View Post
                      also for those who are saying cotto should be undefeated does oscar also enjoy the luxury of taking back his loss against the cheating shane?
                      well ever since being found that he used steroids alot of people including me believe that that loss should have3 been taken off his record

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