Wlad is 33 years old and has over 50 fights in his career

[ACHlLLES]

What do you consider that personally?

[rizkybizness]

an amateur sounding record

[rizkybizness]

what i meant by that is, you know how in the amateurs (most good fighters) have like a million fights and a couple loses

reminds me of his record

also of toney's record as well as JCC

[ACHlLLES]

an amateur sounding record

Beating the best heavyweights in your division is an amateur record? You're

[rizkybizness]

Beating the best heavyweights in your division is an amateur record? You're

read my follow up post

im not bashing his record, i'm specifically talkin about the sheer number of opponents not talking about the actual quality of it

its a lot

[MANGLER]

Wlad is still prime. His KO losses happened quick and didn't take a lot out of him.

[rizkybizness]

Wlad is still prime. His KO losses happened quick and didn't take a lot out of him.

yup

he bounced back beautifully (or atleast as good as possible taking into account the condition of the HW division)

[ACHlLLES]

I don't think people should say Wlad is ducking Haye if he chooses not to fight him now. Haye blew his biggest opportunity in my opinion. He should have been training better, so no injuries occurred. And this topic only has to do with Wlad, so Klitschko haters stop talking about Vitali. Wlads never pulled out of a fight and Vitali had a career before boxing that is prone-2-injuries like kick boxing since theirs less padding. I consider 33 years old and over 50 professional boxing fights as quite old.

[The Gully Gad]

Thats a lot of fights for a young age still....

[rizkybizness]

I don't think people should say Wlad is ducking Haye if he chooses not to fight him now. Haye blew his biggest opportunity in my opinion. He should have been training better, so no injuries occurred. And this topic only has to do with Wlad, so Klitschko haters stop talking about Vitali. Wlads never pulled out of a fight and Vitali had a career before boxing that is prone-2-injuries like kick boxing since theirs less padding. I consider 33 years old and over 50 professional boxing fights as quite old.

did you mean to post this in another thread?