When Bad News Is Good For ESPN2's FNF (Sort Of)

[OnePunch]

Bull**** Terry! When Lou DiBella demands his fighters get air time, then dammit everyone needs to bow down and do as he says!!!!

But yeah, you make an excellent point, and even though I disagree with the philosophy, there isn't a promoter in the business who wouldn't do the same thing.

Why do you disagree with that philosophy? Don't the networks do enough matchmaking already? If I'm Perez' promoter, and its my ESPN date, I would submit 3 or 4 other reasonable names (of MY choosing) for approval. and if ESPN shot them all down, then they can keep the date and I'd do the show dark. Why would I want to broadcast my guy to the world in a fight that has a very very good chance of stinking up the place? And it isn't a money thing since ESPN only pays $25-30k for the whole card anyways............

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

Why do you disagree with that philosophy? Don't the networks do enough matchmaking already? If I'm Perez' promoter, and its my ESPN date, I would submit 3 or 4 other reasonable names (of MY choosing) for approval. and if ESPN shot them all down, then they can keep the date and I'd do the show dark. Why would I want to broadcast my guy to the world in a fight that has a very very good chance of stinking up the place? And it isn't a money thing since ESPN only pays $25-30k for the whole card anyways............

So is Quintana on the card or not?

[robjr]

truth.

Ishe Smith's losses:

Sergio Mora Split Decision loss on 5 round edited tv fights on the contender.

Ishe was already an established fighter with wins over Randall Bailey and david estrada early in Ishe's career. Sergio was the poor kid from east LA lookin to make a good life for his mom. Not saying thats why he got the decision, but if he idid its understandable cuz it makes for good tv.. No discredit to sergio on this one, but a sd on edited tv does qualify for contraversial.

Sechew Powell UD loss 97-92 on all 3 cards.. Powell knocked down once. Not one of Ishe's best performanced but still looked to of edged the victory.. Here is Ledermans card:


Joel Julio UD loss. 96-94 on 2 cards. 97-93 on 1. All I can say is watch the fight. Julio didnt land much clean at all. Was really a boxing lesson, all julio did was throw more.

It seems as if Ishe is put up against guys who are supposed ot beat him apparantly? so they prefer to give them the nod?? This is just how I see it, who knows.. Im glad they didnt rob him against wolak..

[Queen_Leia]

Here what Mosley said about Ishe:

Mosley continued with “how can I be compared to Ishe Smith? A fighter that hasn’t even won a world title yet. How can you compare me to a club fighter that I don’t even think the world even knows yet?”

[Guest]

Why do you disagree with that philosophy? Don't the networks do enough matchmaking already? If I'm Perez' promoter, and its my ESPN date, I would submit 3 or 4 other reasonable names (of MY choosing) for approval. and if ESPN shot them all down, then they can keep the date and I'd do the show dark. Why would I want to broadcast my guy to the world in a fight that has a very very good chance of stinking up the place? And it isn't a money thing since ESPN only pays $25-30k for the whole card anyways............

Question for you. Didn't ESPN used to pay a lot more for some fights then they severely limited the budget?

I mean wasn't there a time when they paid considerably more, and us as fans, and you guys, got more **** and more bucks?

I can't remember when that changed. I wanna say 2003 or 2004, but maybe I'm wrong.

[OnePunch]

Question for you. Didn't ESPN used to pay a lot more for some fights then they severely limited the budget?

I mean wasn't there a time when they paid considerably more, and us as fans, and you guys, got more **** and more bucks?

I can't remember when that changed. I wanna say 2003 or 2004, but maybe I'm wrong.

years ago they used to pay like $60-70k, but its been awhile

[JakeNDaBox]

Why do you disagree with that philosophy? Don't the networks do enough matchmaking already? If I'm Perez' promoter, and its my ESPN date, I would submit 3 or 4 other reasonable names (of MY choosing) for approval. and if ESPN shot them all down, then they can keep the date and I'd do the show dark. Why would I want to broadcast my guy to the world in a fight that has a very very good chance of stinking up the place? And it isn't a money thing since ESPN only pays $25-30k for the whole card anyways............

I don't disagree with the logic... I disagree with the way it's almost always done. There aren't many promoters who have your conscience, and most will try to get away with submitting a bunch of ****ty names in hopes that the network finds one to be not ****ty enough to actually allow on air.

Case in point - for the second straight time, Germaine Sanders is brought in as a pinch hitter for Carlos Quintana. So now if it's just an issue of presenting an entertaining fight, are we honestly going to suggest that Sanders (never mind the fact that he's completely shot) can provide something that Ishe Smith cannot?

[JakeNDaBox]

Why do you disagree with that philosophy? Don't the networks do enough matchmaking already? If I'm Perez' promoter, and its my ESPN date, I would submit 3 or 4 other reasonable names (of MY choosing) for approval. and if ESPN shot them all down, then they can keep the date and I'd do the show dark. Why would I want to broadcast my guy to the world in a fight that has a very very good chance of stinking up the place? And it isn't a money thing since ESPN only pays $25-30k for the whole card anyways............

I don't disagree with the logic... I disagree with the way it's almost always done. There aren't many promoters who have your conscience, and most will try to get away with submitting a bunch of ****ty names in hopes that the network finds one to be not ****ty enough to actually allow on air.

Case in point - Germaine Sanders is being brought in as a replacement for Damian Frias. So now if it's just an issue of presenting an entertaining fight, are we honestly going to suggest that Sanders (never mind the fact that he's completely shot) can provide something that, say an Ishe Smith cannot?