Mayweather is Easier For Pacquiao Than Cotto or Mosley?

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    #111
    Originally posted by Iceta
    Neither guy has been stopped so you have to give credit to both of them for that to be fair. But I think Pacquiao is a harder puncher than most of the guys that Floyd has fought except for maybe a prime Castillo and maybe Zab Judah. Despite JMM getting knocked down in several of his fights, he's always dusted himself off and got up and dug in a dude's ass. So your boy better be ready.
    Now you know that Manny Pacquiao was not hitting harder
    than Phillip Ndou. Plus Floyd has fought more bigger men
    than Manny Pacquiao. Manny maybe a devastating puncher
    to guys like Diaz and Hatton but against a bigger skilled guy
    I don't see Pacquiao being all that devastating of a puncher.
    Sure he KO'd Hatton in 2rds but it took him 8 of beating up
    on Oscar and 11 rounds of pounding on Diaz. Manny knocked
    JMM down a combine 4 times and JMM got up and gave him
    all he could handle. JMM is one of my favorite fighters and
    know that he is tough so he gets much credit from me.

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      #112
      Originally posted by WESS
      I agree with that.... its fair. "Mr. Boat buyer" still beats him. But like you said, his style wouldntnt beat (KO) him like SSM and Cotto.... but I wouldnt put it past him when the size makes the difference.
      What a lot of people are not seeing is that just because Mosley
      and Cotto are bigger than Manny doesn't mean that will beat him any
      worse than Floyd would. Being that Cotto and Mosley are heavier I
      think it would be easier for Pacquiao to get around them and use his
      speed to get in and out. Plus Cotto and Mosley are always there to get
      hit, Floyd isn't. I don't get how mostly everyone feels that Floyd
      would not hurt Pacquiao? Floyd is the most accurate, timing, counter
      puncher in the sport. I don't see Pacquiao beating any of the 3 but
      I do see him getting hit more by Floyd than Mosley and Cotto. With
      that said, Mosley and Cotto IF they connect effectively on Manny
      the fight could be over but against Floyd, Manny could potentially
      get the worst whipping out of the 3 because it would drag on.

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        #113
        Originally posted by JAS_JAS
        and its posters like you that makes me wanna puke, you make it sound like PBF is some kind of SUPERMAN lolz, he can be hit and he can be hurt period, thats why he is ducking fighters that he knows would give him hell and actually have a chance of beating him. thats why he retired, he cannot avoid them anymore, now he is back and by the looks of it and what he is saying in his interviews, he is still not fighting them, fighting for checks my ass...
        On the real though, the guy makes a lot of sense. If you watch
        Floyd fights instead of bashing him because of his character you
        will see that he pretty much out smarted every fighter he fought
        against with his only tough fight coming by the way of Jose Luis
        Castillo, who was way bigger than Floyd weight wise. In the rematch
        with Castillo, Jose weighed 147 pounds and Floyd weighed like 138
        and that time Floyd beat him with NO controversy. Oscar was also
        way bigger than Floyd. Floyd is fighting for checks and after JMM &
        Pac then it will be Mosley and finally Cotto (If Cotto is still on the map
        after Clottey). Face it, Floyd is a live wire.

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          #114
          Like i keep saying...All 3 would destroy Pac..I see Mayweather especially beating him down and embarrassing him..

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            #115
            “Mosley is fast, he is aggressive, he is strong and it looks like he would be the toughest fight out there. But then you have to take into consideration that Cotto beat him. Both are bigger than Mayweather, size-wise. Mayweather can make 140 easy. He is just lazy," Roach said.


            Like Ive said all over the board Roach knows how small Floyd is .

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              #116
              Originally posted by RodBarker
              “Mosley is fast, he is aggressive, he is strong and it looks like he would be the toughest fight out there. But then you have to take into consideration that Cotto beat him. Both are bigger than Mayweather, size-wise. Mayweather can make 140 easy. He is just lazy," Roach said.


              Like Ive said all over the board Roach knows how small Floyd is .
              Yes but NOT making 140 doesnt make you LAZY. We all know damn well Floyd is NOT lazy.

              I bet hes rolling around 150+ right now getting ready to drop to 144. Last time he was 140 (139) was VS Gatti four years ago..... But yea Floyd is smaller compared to Mosley and Cotto. But that doesnt make him lazy. Roach is just talking his shyt like Floyd Sr always does.....

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                #117
                Originally posted by WESS
                Yes but NOT making 140 doesnt make you LAZY. We all know damn well Floyd is NOT lazy.

                I bet hes rolling around 150+ right now getting ready to drop to 144. Last time he was 140 (139) was VS Gatti four years ago..... But yea Floyd is smaller compared to Mosley and Cotto. But that doesnt make him lazy. Roach is just talking his shyt like Floyd Sr always does.....
                I think Roach doesnt mean it literally as all fighters work hard , Its not just work to make that weight its more about discipline in what goes in your mouth , I think the weights Floyd has fought at is easy for him in that he doesnt have to diet hard he doesnt have to work that bit more and he doesnt have to dry out , so I guess in a broad sense Roach just wraps that group up in one word , lazy , Floyds on top of the hill the hunger in him has to be less than when he was coming up, I can see where Roach would use the term lazy in an off the cuff statement like that and I dont think he is talking **** as it was no big deal and makes a lot of sense to me Ive always believed JW class is the best division for Floyd , its where he will KO people .

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  I think Roach doesnt mean it literally as all fighters work hard , Its not just work to make that weight its more about discipline in what goes in your mouth , I think the weights Floyd has fought at is easy for him in that he doesnt have to diet hard he doesnt have to work that bit more and he doesnt have to dry out , so I guess in a broad sense Roach just wraps that group up in one word , lazy , Floyds on top of the hill the hunger in him has to be less than when he was coming up, I can see where Roach would use the term lazy in an off the cuff statement like that and I dont think he is talking **** as it was no big deal and makes a lot of sense to me Ive always believed JW class is the best division for Floyd , its where he will KO people .
                  Floyds on top of the hill the hunger in him has to be less than when he was coming up
                  Well I dont think he truely thinks that or else he wouldnt have come back. I think he has that hunger of wanting to be the best and prove it. In all hes been fighting at or his last few fights where at 146-147 and above. I dont think he plans on going below 144-145. If Manny and him **** it will be at 144-145. I dont see PBF moving all the way down to 140 like he did last back with Gatti.....

                  SO other than cash money weight will be a big thing. Becasue I REALLY dont see PBF fighting at 140 unless he got like 60+% and picked location, gloves etc. Even then I just dont see it. Anyway there will be A LOT of issues that I can see Pac fighting Mosley or Cotto while Mayweather fights who ever Pac doesnt fight and go from there.....

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #119
                    its a no brainer that mosley and cotto beats pac at 147 lbs... they are too big. mosley and cotto are pratically middleweights on fight night.

                    floyd is a much more fairer fight for pac, but floyd is a very strong dude for his size. floyd could win an ugly decision against pac, but I don't see floyd stopping manny. floyd just doesn't throw enough punches.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      its a no brainer that mosley and cotto beats pac at 147 lbs... they are too big. mosley and cotto are pratically middleweights on fight night.

                      floyd is a much more fairer fight for pac, but floyd is a very strong dude for his size. floyd could win an ugly decision against pac, but I don't see floyd stopping manny. floyd just doesn't throw enough punches.
                      Yes he is very strong but then balance is strength and Floyd uses his balance to turn your strength against yourself , I remember leading up to Hatton where his sparring partners one a MW said he was very strong ,,,,,

                      He didnt throw a lot of punches Hattons way and still stopped him , it only takes a few to stop somebody , Floyd has good power with guys his weight its only with the bigger WWs he has trouble stopping them .

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