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  • Mike_Dee
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    #41
    Mike Alvarado vs. Paulie Malignaggi

    we just saw Mike Alvarado on the undercard of Pacquiao-Hatton.

    If Paulie doesn't come out flat, he'll win this fight easily.





    Good insight from the magic man

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    • sandyvahra
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      #42
      Originally posted by Deja_Vous
      He favors Manny...

      No wonder you posted it.
      Why don't you discuss the article like the rest of the people on this thread, dumbass.

      Notice how Paulie sways back & forth between both fighters. Fact is he knows more about the fight game than you or I.
      Last edited by sandyvahra; 05-27-2009, 10:14 AM.

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      • M.I Truth ?
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        #43
        The in and out/ leave him there theory is good. I need to see what Floyd looks like against JMM as well. If Paulie is right though I see Pac doing that fpr 3-4 rnds before Mayweather makes a change.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #44
          What paulie is saying isn't new. All guys that are too defensive, like pbf, winky, bhop, etc... can get stuck in a defensive mode and be outworked.

          It is a worry for floyd because floyd's activity has suffered since he's moved up the weightclasses. The test is can floyd catch pac coming in. Marquez was able to time pac, so pbf should be able to also.

          That said, pbf can still be outworked if he doesn't throw enough punches.

          Its a really close fight.

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          • DeepSleep
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            #45
            Paulie brought up some good points. Against De La Hoya he dominated the fight but because he wasn't active the judges didn't see it. If he only potshots against Pacman he will have to time him on the way in with right hands which can get very risky. On the other hand Floyd hits harder than anyone Pacman has ever boxed against, if Pacman gets too trigger-happy one nasty straight right hand could spell trouble for him. This fight is much too intriguing...

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            • nj_evoixgsr
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              #46
              Originally posted by raycorey

              Paq isnt has smart as some people are crediting him with but he has surely improve over the years with Roach in his corner, The second JMM fight is still a big concern for me on how he was outthink in there by JMM.

              He was draw into JMM pace and he couldnt really do anything about it, Whenever he up the pace he was able to tag JMM but he just didnt do it enough in that fight and thats why he lost that fight for me.

              your talking about intelligence but your comment is hard to read and didn't get passed the second paragraph first three words.

              please edit for others like myself to read your opinion properly. thanks!

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              • DrewWoodside
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                #47
                Originally posted by chiyoko
                The good thing is he has Roger in that corner and Roger turns fights around.I remember the first few rounds of the Oscar Floyd fight when Floyd was fighting off the ropes.Oscar wasnt landing many shots but Roger told Floyd to stay off the ropes.He said 'you making Oscar seem like he is landing to the judges,keep off the ropes ',had Floyd been fighting off the ropes throughout he would have lost that fight.

                Manny -Floyd is interesting,if Manny keeps his hands low the way he normally does then he wont even know what hit him.
                That's one of the 5 most popular pieces of advice trainers give their fighters. I respect Roger is a good trainer but that's not particularly special. Stay off the ropes, use your jab, move your head etc.

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                • marsman
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                  Stop it dude. Manny is NOT susceptible to body shots, he has one of the most well-conditioned bodies in boxing. He was KO'd once 10 years ago while weight drained and couldn't make Flyweight any longer, so he moved up THREE divisions after that fight. That's how drained he was. I kept saying Hatton's body punching wouldn't affect Manny at all, and it didn't. I'm sick of this "Manny is sensitive to the body" crap, it's absolute BS.
                  Better research before you answer chief...Hatton didn't land any body shot first of all, he almost didn't land anything. Now in the Marquez Pacquiao fight the body shots were taking their toll. Exhibit A. Round 8 go to 4 minutes and 5 seconds, watch the large body shot and Manny start running




                  What Floyd needs to do to win is this...How he fought SHarmba Mitchell a more skilled South paw then Pacquaio..go to 9 minutes 27 seconds to see what I mean. Utilizing those same punches...Mayweather can have an easy night




                  Respect me young man. This has been another precise post by the Marsman.
                  Last edited by marsman; 05-27-2009, 11:01 AM.

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                    #49
                    fixed**

                    Originally posted by marsman
                    Respect me young man. This has been another precision FAILURE post by the Marsman.
                    first, that shot by marquez. may have hurt pac but did not in any way show that it stunned him enough to be "suspectible to being hurt to the body". if a good body shot hits you and your hurt i don't think he would come right back at him 5 seconds later? if you are hit to the body and it does hurt "enough" your going to move away not stay and let that spot get hit again. .....unless your marsman.

                    i don't think mayweather will win or do anything to pac by body shots. he will get him by timing pac with a nice right to the FACE when pac swings wild to try to catch pbf.

                    ^^as mentioned time kills speed.
                    mayweather can adjust and that's what makes him dangerous to pac as well. pac can't adjust well.

                    don't get me wrong. that's how i see mayweather winning against pac. if that doesn't happen. pac will ruin mayweather by showing him a beast that he let loose when he retired and PAC OUT SHINED everything PBF was as a p4p king.<

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by nj_evoixgsr
                      fixed**



                      first, that shot by marquez. may have hurt pac but did not in any way show that it stunned him enough to be "suspectible to being hurt to the body". if a good body shot hits you and your hurt i don't think he would come right back at him 5 seconds later? if you are hit to the body and it does hurt "enough" your going to move away not stay and let that spot get hit again. .....unless your marsman.

                      i don't think mayweather will win or do anything to pac by body shots. he will get him by timing pac with a nice right to the FACE when pac swings wild to try to catch pbf.

                      ^^as mentioned time kills speed.
                      mayweather can adjust and that's what makes him dangerous to pac as well. pac can't adjust well.

                      don't get me wrong. that's how i see mayweather winning against pac. if that doesn't happen. pac will ruin mayweather by showing him a beast that he let loose when he retired and PAC OUT SHINED everything PBF was as a p4p king.<

                      If something hurts you, then obviously it can break you down. These are human beings not machines, and sucsceptibility is based on what you're prone to. If something causes you pain, you are prone to it. PAc was hurt by the shot, cringed and escaped...why did he come back, because thats his attitude. Now Seeing what clearly can hurt him is an open gameplan for Mayweather. The guy will start running if you hit him to the body, forget the head is what Mayweather needs to do, if he goes for the head it needs to be off of a left hook no jab.

                      Now a great example of a fighter doing repeatedly over again what hurt him previously is...none other than Hatton. All of us know how he made fun of the right hook that put him down. Pacquiao is a braveheart, which can be used against him. Mayweather is a man that does what works. So for him it will be body shot from round one on, another thing that shot was landed in round 8/9....if done repeatedly from earlier on the little damage it caused would of been bigger.

                      Pacman better have his right hook sharp and protect that body, Mayweather needs to leave the shoulder roll at hom and come in with his Hands up like Clottey and release body shots like we've never seen before.

                      The videos speak for themselves, I didn't hit him his opponents did.

                      Later canucks

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