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  • Ray*
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    #31
    Originally posted by jantzen212003
    I think pacq's speed is being over rated! He was blazing fast against which opponents? Which of those guys were considered speed merchants? How long will the "speed" of pacq last? He has fought less than 12 rds in the past year, possibly 2yrs by the time this fight gets made. I saw him fade against jmm. I think he will be forced to think and miss more when fighting pbf. And just like all his fights, pbf will take his time frustrate pacq and drown him late. It will be exciting for the 1st 4rds though. But, afterwards, game over.

    Paq isnt has smart as some people are crediting him with but he has surely improve over the years with Roach in his corner, The second JMM fight is still a big concern for me on how he was outthink in there by JMM.

    He was draw into JMM pace and he couldnt really do anything about it, Whenever he up the pace he was able to tag JMM but he just didnt do it enough in that fight and thats why he lost that fight for me.

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      #32
      Originally posted by fabzmm
      i agree with his in and out thing hes talking about

      what I think he's forgetting but brushed up on is that when floyd keeps landing flush with clean right hands to pacman will he keep going in and out? I think not. marquez already kept him at bay for most of the fight and marquez didnt even use the jab.
      it's an interesting fight

      Thats what i saw in the second Pac/JMM fight, JMM was able to make Paq fight at his own pace which made paq lose alot of the rounds imo.

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      • miron_lang
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        #33
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        You mean Floyd can break Pac like Morales did???

        that 139lbs PAC? Yes. that's a GREEN and small Pacquiao without the accurate right hook and sliding footwork.

        Today's Pacquiao is @147-148lbs

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          #34
          Originally posted by chiyoko
          What people also forget is Manny swings wide some of his shots,you cant do that against Floyd.Floyd can also hit you before you hit himand Floyd can be a good inside fighter.
          Floyd can block shots before they even leave.As a matter of fact people Floyd has already released his strategy,he said we are going to tie Manny up,what this means is Manny wont be allowed to release any shots.He will basically be a punchbag,let's see if he will get past 6 rounds

          You make it sound like Floyd is fighting some dummy, who's so slow that anybody can see his punches a mile away, OR, is this one of your Chuck Norris stories of Floyd?

          Dream on...

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            #35
            Originally posted by raycorey
            I actually agree with paulie M but it all depend on how decides to take on Pacman, Paq would fight his usual fight and his speed and stance would give Mayweather a lot of problems. Judah was able to do that to Mayweather but he never got out of there after throwing his combo, He stayed there enough for Mayweather to counter him.

            If Paq throws his combo and gets out like Pauli M suggest then i do think Pacman would win a decision because he wouldnt give Mayweather the chance to throw anything back if pacman isnt there to be hit.

            Decision is a possibility, but if Floyd knows he's trailing, and starts chasing Pacman, he can get knocked out.

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              #36
              Originally posted by sandyvahra
              Sorry if this is a duplicate guys. But an interesting analysis nonetheless. Good insight.

              http://www.*************.com/columns...says-ex-champ/
              He favors Manny...

              No wonder you posted it.

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                #37
                Some things Paulie said were good and some things I felt were way off. I think he feels that Floyd is just a pot shot guy now and that is not the case. He's only like that against bigger guys. Nearly every righty will pot shot against a Southpaw though because its hard to hit a great Southpaw with mad combos although Pac is aggressive so it should be alot easier.

                He's basically putting Floyd in the Clottey-Winky catagory. People always say that you can handcuff those guys like Williams did to Winky but Floyd counters alot faster than them. All those guys are better at it then people think. It looks like you can handcuff them but theyve been fighting this way theyre whole life. They know how to get off. However, when I did at times see Pac giving Floyd trouble, I also saw it this way. Pac letting his hands go and Floyd covering up. He tries to counter but Pac is out by then. The problem is what Paulie talked about in his article. You have to count on Floyd making adjustments. Pac may do all that stuff early but Floyd is the best at adjusting. Thats why I always say that if it was a 15 round fight then Pac would have no chance unless he just caught him with a blind punch. However, in a 12 round fight he may jump out so early that Floyd is pretty far behind by time he gets going.

                The bottom line is that this fight can play out a number of different ways and thats why it needs to happened. I think this fight has much more to do with Floyd than Pac. Pac is going to be the same Pac all day every day but what will Floyd be? If he looks older, slower, rusty, and waits on Pac then he is in seious trouble. He has to find that perfect balance. He has to find a way to fight with the same furious speed that he fought Chop with but with the same slow caution that he fought Zab with. Its a balance. If he fights fast like he did Chop then he could tear Pac up but he will probably also get caught sooner or later and he could be finished. If he fights Pac with the same calculated caution that he did Zab then he will probably never get caught but he may be too slow that he loses rounds and gets outworked. He has to find that balance. If he finds the perfect balance then Pac is finished

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                  #38
                  MAyweather Jr. can't get pas a southpaws right hook. Thats his weakness. Period. I'll show you what I mean...Exhibit A go to 3:05




                  Exhibit B got 45 seconds




                  Question is Has Floyd Adjusted


                  Also to make it fair, PAcquiao is susceptible to Body Shots. He cringes and backs up whenever u throw to the body and has been knocked down from a body shot.


                  This hs been a post by Marsman,see you later canucks

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                    He favors Manny...

                    No wonder you posted it.
                    So what should he do, not post anything that favors Manny?

                    Idiot.



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                    • S A M U R A I
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by marsman
                      Also to make it fair, PAcquiao is susceptible to Body Shots. He cringes and backs up whenever u throw to the body and has been knocked down from a body shot.
                      Stop it dude. Manny is NOT susceptible to body shots, he has one of the most well-conditioned bodies in boxing. He was KO'd once 10 years ago while weight drained and couldn't make Flyweight any longer, so he moved up THREE divisions after that fight. That's how drained he was. I kept saying Hatton's body punching wouldn't affect Manny at all, and it didn't. I'm sick of this "Manny is sensitive to the body" crap, it's absolute BS.



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