Would Vitali Klitschko be too big for Marciano?

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #31
    Originally posted by ACHlLLES
    Show me a boxing fight where a 180-185 pounder ko'd a 230-240 pound fighter.

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    • ACHlLLES
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      #32
      **** some of you overrating Marciano he wouldn't even have beat Louis's ass if it wasn't at the tail-end of Louis's career. So lets put him up against a skilled heavyweight he is huge and can punch and has never been hit cleanly by most fighters he fought except for Lewis and you can make a slight case for Sanders but that case is slim since he didn't seem to hurt Vitali at all.

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      • Boogie Nights
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        #33
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        No its not. Its the same as Mayweather. How can you beat a defense that has never been defeated?

        Its ****** saying Vitali will KO Marciano when Marciano has never been KO'd, ref stopped, or had his will broken.
        anybody can be beaten. If you havent been beaten then you havent faced the right guys.

        pretty much any all time great heavyweight would go throught Marciano's record undefeated. Rocky's a great fighter, but he should be rated in his own era. if he was around today he would be a light heavy or a cruiser.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #34
          Originally posted by F l i c k e r
          No its not. Its the same as Mayweather. How can you beat a defense that has never been defeated?

          Its ****** saying Vitali will KO Marciano when Marciano has never been KO'd, ref stopped, or had his will broken.
          I don't think it is that ******. Marciano was dropped twice; one by Walcott and the other by Moorer. I doubt either of those two hit any harder than Wlad and Vitali who not only bring power, but accuracy.
          Then you add on size, skill, strength, reach, youth, etc. and it ups the odds.

          Marciano wasn't fighting fighters that much taller than him or even that much heavier than him. The very few he did, they were not good at all.

          Marciano was also being out-boxed by Walcott in that first match. Had a tough time with Charles, and even in his first match with LaStarza had trouble.

          Now put the Klit brothers in there and I would lean in both their favor to beat Rocky. Even if you don't want to say they knock him out, I would favor both of them to beat Rocky.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Benny Leonard
            I don't think it is that ******. Marciano was dropped twice; one by Walcott and the other by Moorer. I doubt either of those two hit any harder than Wlad and Vitali who not only bring power, but accuracy.
            Then you add on size, skill, strength, reach, youth, etc. and it ups the odds.

            Marciano wasn't fighting fighters that much taller than him or even that much heavier than him. The very few he did, they were not good at all.

            Marciano was also being out-boxed by Walcott in that first match. Had a tough time with Charles, and even in his first match with LaStarza had trouble.

            Now put the Klit brothers in there and I would lean in both their favor to beat Rocky. Even if you don't want to say they knock him out, I would favor both of them to beat Rocky.
            Thats the thing. Im not saying that they dont have a chance to win. (Unlike other people in this thread who thinks one of the best HWs ever wont beat two guys who most people think have sketchy performances.)

            I think they can win by decision. I dont think they can win by KO. Thats being realistic. Saying someone who has never been KO'd and never loss once in 49 fights, will be KO'd is very unrealistic. Thats just going by fan-dom, hoping something will happen instead of seeing the facts.

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              #36
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              Thats the thing. Im not saying that they dont have a chance to win. (Unlike other people in this thread who thinks one of the best HWs ever wont beat two guys who most people think have sketchy performances.)

              I think they can win by decision. I dont think they can win by KO. Thats being realistic. Saying someone who has never been KO'd and never loss once in 49 fights, will be KO'd is very unrealistic. Thats just going by fan-dom, hoping something will happen instead of seeing the facts.
              Gee, man you're difficult. that statement there wouldnt stick a fly to a dog's turd hanging out of its ass.

              that's like saying a soldier who has never been wounded or killed in combat can take a bullet to the head then get up off the floor, wipe off his splattered brains and keep on walking.

              Grow up./

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                #37
                Originally posted by Boogie Nights
                Gee, man you're difficult. that statement there wouldnt stick a fly to a dog's turd hanging out of its ass.

                that's like saying a soldier who has never been wounded or killed in combat can take a bullet to the head then get up off the floor, wipe off his splattered brains and keep on walking.

                Grow up./
                What? Its nothing like that. There is always a chance something can happen. Looking at the FACTS, not going by what you want to happen, are two totally different things.
                FACT: Marciano has never been stopped.
                WANT: The Klitschkos will KO him.

                Work with what you KNOW./

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                  #38
                  Marciano would have such little chance to beat Klitchko, it would be negligable. I'm a huge Rocky fan, but Klitchko is too big for a great number of heavyweight greats from the past. If they were barely 6' and weighed about 200#, give or take, there's just no way to overcome that much difference in size.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    WANT: The Klitschkos will KO him.[/INDENT]
                    Want? i dont want anything, and i dont care how it happens or what happens.

                    im just telling you how it's gonna go down.

                    you need to get background info first before spewing nonesense.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Stickman
                      Marciano would have such little chance to beat Klitchko, it would be negligable. I'm a huge Rocky fan, but Klitchko is too big for a great number of heavyweight greats from the past. If they were barely 6' and weighed about 200#, give or take, there's just no way to overcome that much difference in size.
                      Why did Pacquiao beat DLH?

                      How did Tommy Hearns capture the Cruiseweight title?

                      How is Floyd still undefeated?

                      How come Mike Tyson is history's youngest Champion and UD Champion?


                      Size isn't everything...

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