Who do you think can beat Pwilliams???

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  • Silencers
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    #21
    A guy that can move on him like Quintana did would give him trouble at 147 and 154, don't count out Dzinziruk because he has good movement, a good jab, good technique and a solid chin, a guy like Mayweather would beat him IMO and if Mosley has the right gameplan and can stick to it for 12 rounds could beat him as well. I'd have Cotto on there but he has to show that he can fight on the move against a bigger guy without fading late before I'd pick him against Williams. A big puncher like Abraham and Pavlik would probably beat him at 160 as well.

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #22
      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
      The one's in bold get jabbed to death by Winky Wright even now.
      And what that have to do with them Beating Williams????

      Styles makes fight, homie!!!!

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #23
        Originally posted by Silencers
        A guy that can move on him like Quintana did would give him trouble at 147 and 154, don't count out Dzinziruk because he has good movement, a good jab, good technique and a solid chin, a guy like Mayweather would beat him IMO and if Mosley has the right gameplan and can stick to it for 12 rounds could beat him as well. I'd have Cotto on there but he has to show that he can fight on the move against a bigger guy without fading late before I'd pick him against Williams. A big puncher like Abraham and Pavlik would probably beat him at 160 as well.
        I used to think that Dzinziruk had a chance, or at least the fight would be competitive, but after the Winky fight I'm not so sure. Either Winky is shot, was just way too old and inactive, or I can't see how Dzinziruk has that much of a chance anymore.

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          #24
          At 147
          Cotto, If he can get to the inside, Williams is dead meat, but if Williams keeps Cotto n the outside Cotto is dead meat.

          Quintana for sure.

          Mosley ahve the perfect style to bad he said he wont fght him.

          At 154
          Santos
          Martinez
          Kirkland
          Dzinziruk


          At 160
          Pavlik
          Abraham

          Both KTFO Williams for sho


          Willimas is beateble, put he is tought do to his height reach and workrate!!!!!
          Last edited by Ch@mpBox@PR; 05-25-2009, 10:40 PM.

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          • Silencers
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            #25
            Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
            I used to think that Dzinziruk had a chance, or at least the fight would be competitive, but after the Winky fight I'm not so sure. Either Winky is shot, was just way too old and inactive, or I can't see how Dzinziruk has that much of a chance anymore.
            I still think he has a chance, I mean there are still question marks surrounding Winky, he was off for close to 2 years so rust was definitely a factor, can't be off for close to 2 years without suffering some kind of ring rust or deterioration of skills, he looked OK but I think we need to see him fight again before saying how good the win was from Williams. Dzinziruk fights a bit differently from Winky as well, he doesn't tuck his elbows in and come forward, he uses his jabs and creates angles and steps to the side more than Winky, which is the type of guy that would give Williams trouble IMO.
            Last edited by Silencers; 05-25-2009, 11:15 PM.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #26
              Originally posted by Silencers
              I still think he has a chance, I mean there are still question marks surrounding Winky, he was off for close to 2 years so rust was definitely a factor, can't be off for close to 2 years without suffering some kind of ring rust or deterioration of skills, he looked OK but I think we need to see him fight against before saying how good the win was from Williams. Dzinziruk fights a bit differently from Winky as well, he doesn't tuck his elbows in and come forward, he uses his jabs and creates angles and steps to the side more than Winky, which is the type of guy that would give Williams trouble IMO.
              Yeah, I guess he has more lateral movement than Winky, especially at this stage. I just got to thinking guard up most of the fight, very good jab, too much like Winky to give Paul enough trouble. Definitely needs to throw the straight left more though. In the Santos fight I was thinking that his left must be broken, but then he'd finally throw it. Excellent jab, but he's almost a one handed fighter. It's still going to be tough for a one handed fighter without serious power to beat a guy with Paul's workrate.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                Yeah, I guess he has more lateral movement than Winky, especially at this stage. I just got to thinking guard up most of the fight, very good jab, too much like Winky to give Paul enough trouble. Definitely needs to throw the straight left more though. In the Santos fight I was thinking that his left must be broken, but then he'd finally throw it. Excellent jab, but he's almost a one handed fighter. It's still going to be tough for a one handed fighter without serious power to beat a guy with Paul's workrate.
                True that he doesn't let his left hand go enough and he's a little open to shots through the middle, Dzinziruk's power is decent though, not a big, big puncher by any means but I think he has enough power to get his opponents' respect. His conditioning is pretty good as well, not as good as Williams' but he can throw 70 punches a round and still be fresh in the latter parts of fights. I'd pick Williams to beat him but I wouldn't be surprised if he springs the upset.

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                • hollister
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                  #28
                  Chuck Norris

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                    #29
                    Gamboa could destroy williams in 2-5 rounds. no welterweigh can beat paul though he is to great.

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                    • robjr
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                      #30
                      shane mosley......

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