Miguel Cotto would KO Floyd Mayweather

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  • Njord777
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    #161
    Originally posted by Spacey1991
    I aint saying he is a knockout artist, but what I mean is he aint feather fisted like people say... I aint saying he will knock these fighters out at Welterweight, I am just saying many people underrate his power as a fighter... he isn't much of a power puncher but has better power than people think and can use it when he needs too.

    All I am saying is, people can't go round saying that Cotto's defense is underrated and then say Floyd is featherfisted... just like people can't say Floyd's power is underrated but Cotto has awful defense... in fairness both fighters are underrated for them.

    Obviously Floyd isn't the most powerful puncher, so his power isn't one of his strong points, but it aint as bad as people make out. Just like Cotto's defense aint great, it isn't one of his strong points... but it probably isn't as bad as people make out.

    You get what I mean?
    I do. People talk as if Cotto has sloppy defense and, despite some flaws, that isn't the case. I also agree that Floyd is no Malinaggi. If you let him hit you at will there's a good chance you can get stopped by accumulation of punches; I just don't think we can suggest he has enough power to hurt a good sized welterweight with a single punch. With his style it even took him ten rounds to make Hatton eat it; and he's obviously a junior welterweight who showed, against a guy like Collazo, a chin at that weight isn't something he should be known for.

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      #162
      Originally posted by Njord777
      Yeah, maybe Gatti was bigger- but Cotto's bigger than Gatti; plus, eventually the line has to be drawn. At some point, keeping getting sequentially larger, and someone is going to be too big for Floyd.

      The thing about Gatti was he was just too slow for Mayweather. Sure, maybe his hardest punch would've hurt Floyd, but he looked like he was swimming in molasses compared to Mayweather; three, four punches would land for Floyd for every one Gatti could even attempt to throw.

      Cotto is no Gatti. He's far superior. Decent speed and boxing ability- Floyd vs. Cotto wouldn't resemble the Gatti fight at all to me. I'm not saying Cotto would win hands down, I'd have to put more thought into it, but he's becoming the size of fighter than Floyd is going to have to work harder to beat in my mind.
      cotto has defensive issues. thats apparent. Floyd is well capable of exploiting them, size advantage or not

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        #163
        Originally posted by Spacey1991
        Your saying Cotto's defense is underrated, but Floyd's power is underrated... if your gonna call Floyd feather fisted people are just gonna say Cotto has **** defense.

        Cotto isn't more accurate than Floyd and isn't the fasted or most accurate fighter Floyd has faced so you can't take his defense away from him when talking about this fight.



        Defense is the most important thing in Boxing, it is what makes Floyd so great... you can't go around acting like his ring smarts and defense is overrated because in fairness his ring intelligence and defense is amazing... you can't take that away from him. That would be like me saying Cotto's body punches are overrated.

        Name the fighters Cotto has fought to equal with Mayweather...



        Mayweather throws less and lands more than his opponent, so where are you getting at... what makes you think Cotto will be any different? I aint saying Cotto can't beat Floyd he is a great fighter and obviously has a punchers chance but you acting like he walks through Floyd.



        Shane is accurate and I disagree with the person who said he isn't.



        Just ignore him mate...


        Cotto isn't more accurate than Floyd and isn't the fasted or most accurate fighter Floyd has faced so you can't take his defense away from him when talking about this fight.
        What fighter Floyd box that is so much accurate than cotto? And when it comes to body punching Cotto is the most accurate in boxing by far.

        Defense is the most important thing in Boxing, it is what makes Floyd so great... you can't go around acting like his ring smarts and defense is overrated because in fairness his ring intelligence and defense is amazing... you can't take that away from him. That would be like me saying Cotto's body punches are overrated.

        Name the fighters Cotto has fought to equal with Mayweather...
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        Shane Mosley has a better resume than Mayweather so I think he equals and surpasses Floyd.

        Mayweather throws less and lands more than his opponent, so where are you getting at... what makes you think Cotto will be any different? I aint saying Cotto can't beat Floyd he is a great fighter and obviously has a punchers chance but you acting like he walks through Floyd
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        I don't think anyone said he walks throug Floyd... in my opinion it will be hard but I feel Cotto brings way to much pressure for Floyd to handle and Cotto brings more than just trying to out box you to the table and that versatility is very important in boxing.

        Mayweather will have no idea what hit him when Cotto starts to hit him in the body.

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          #164
          Originally posted by Njord777
          I do. People talk as if Cotto has sloppy defense and, despite some flaws, that isn't the case. I also agree that Floyd is no Malinaggi. If you let him hit you at will there's a good chance you can get stopped by accumulation of punches; I just don't think we can suggest he has enough power to hurt a good sized welterweight with a single punch. With his style it even took him ten rounds to make Hatton eat it; and he's obviously a junior welterweight who showed, against a guy like Collazo, a chin at that weight isn't something he should be known for.
          Well, I think he hurt Hatton a lot on that fight, but Hatton's heart kept in going... I think Floyd can hurt WW's, but not with one punch no, for example... if Cotto was fatigued and really tired... Floyd could begin to hurt him.

          But yeah your right, his power isn't his strongest point... I think it is his accuracy that hurts his opponents more because he hits them in the correct places and that, and can hit people virtually every time he sees an opening.

          It is just like you said, he aint anything like Mallignagie, but he aint like Tyson either in terms of power...

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            #165
            Originally posted by mr.raines21
            cotto has defensive issues. thats apparent. Floyd is well capable of exploiting them, size advantage or not
            I'm just not as quick to assume Floyd's skill can overcome all size of men. There's no shame in Floyd being the best in boxing but unable to compete against all the men at 147; everyone seems to feel that way, though. Would we really expect Pacquiao to jump into the ring at welterweight against a Cotto or, God forbid, Mosley? I don't think that's reasonable.

            Anyway, maybe you're right in thinking Floyd could exploit Cotto's defense; but that's relative. Maybe five rounds of exploitation, with Floyd's size, could equal three rounds of Cotto bullying Mayweather; if you understand my point. The damage could be done in less time for Cotto. Now, whether or not he could stop Floyd or win enough rounds this way to steal the fight- I'm not too sure; I do think Miguel would make a real fight of it, though.

            I might be edging towards Cotto despite liking Floyd.

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              #166
              Originally posted by Jabrony
              What fighter Floyd box that is so much accurate than cotto? And when it comes to body punching Cotto is the most accurate in boxing by far.



              Shane Mosley has a better resume than Mayweather so I think he equals and surpasses Floyd.

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              I don't think anyone said he walks throug Floyd... in my opinion it will be hard but I feel Cotto brings way to much pressure for Floyd to handle and Cotto brings more than just trying to out box you to the table and that versatility is very important in boxing.

              Mayweather will have no idea what hit him when Cotto starts to hit him in the body.
              The thing is though, I think Mayweather will catch him on his way in a lot, and pick him off a lot throughout the fight with his accuracy... I honestly feel he will find Mayweather much harder to hit, I can't see him getting to hit Floyd to the body very often... I don't know why I just can't.

              I guess its all based on opinion, you think that my idea will be neutralized by yours, and the same way round with me.

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              • Jabrony
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                #167
                Originally posted by mr.raines21
                wasnt gatti a bigger man as well? Size only help ur punch resistance so much dude.... Plus, floyd is accurate, and doesnt waste energy, so hes likely to be strong throughout the fight.
                Cotto is a far superior Boxer than Gatti in every boxing skill there is.

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                  #168
                  that, right there, is an example of floyds power being written off. Have you ever seen floyd punch with the velocity that cotto, or mosley punches with? yet, he still scores knockouts right? what does that tell you?

                  And cotto does not have the chin that floyd does. yes, i said it. floyd has a chin, a body, and counter punching skills. This fight wont go well for cotto imo

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                    #169
                    now that Floyd is back from his hiatus and rested his body... who knows how able his hands are.. he may have more power than he did last time... just never know.. we shall see on 7/18

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Jabrony
                      Cotto is a far superior Boxer than Gatti in every boxing skill there is.
                      that want my point. the point is size didnt mean **** when he was getting hit in the face

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