Who's the HARDER puncher? Rafa Marquez or Juanma Lopez?

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  • fdotorres
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    If Marquez was fighting two or three weights below where he didnt belong he would probably have 100% ko ratio.
    your name is bhop... so tell me, who are the biggest wins of hopkins career? weren't they little trinidad and de la hoya? wasn't pavlik smaller too?

    who's going to fight floyd? isn't it the lightweight champ? the guy that looked smaller than most people at 135? that natural featherweight who moved up at 35 year just to chase a fight with pac?

    get real
    Last edited by fdotorres; 05-25-2009, 03:29 PM.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #42
      Originally posted by Perro
      Simple question... Who cracks harder?

      Rafa: 38-5-34 KOs (90%)

      Juanma: 25-0-23 KOs (92%)
      juanma is a huge cat at 122 lbs.

      what's more important than punching power is punch resistance, and because of the vasquez fights, RM loses that one.

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      • LilGizmo562
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        #43
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
        I dont think Rafa can thrown 1000+ punches like Juanma did in 9 rounds.

        Buys who are very accuarate is because they throw less punches to be eefective. Rafa throwing 1K ppunches in a fight will get him out of his style and game plan.

        And nope rafa doesnt hit harder than Juanma, dont think he would of KOd Penalosa either.

        The hardest hiters in the SBW divison are

        1.Juanma
        2.Ponce De Leon
        3.Vazquez
        4.Caballero
        5.Marquez
        6.Nishioka
        7.Cordova
        True didnt think about that, but if he ever did, I'm sure he would atleast land over 50% and I would have Marquez in the top 3, De Leon hits hard, but I think Rafa hits harder.

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        • MaYaN_SuN
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          #44
          Originally posted by Antwuan Maxx
          Marquez had similar power at 118 to that JuanMa has at 122. But at 122 and up, Rafa's punches don't seem as devastating. I mean ****, at 118, Rafa was staggering dudes with jabs.
          That pretty much sums it up..

          I think that's also why Marquez never really learned any sufficient defense. The ****in guy would just drop bombs on people, he never needed defense.

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          • RightCross94
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            #45
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            I always differ with that.


            I mean, Sure Marquez have Ko lots of people. But Juanma stoped to guys that have never been down ever.

            My point is, for Example, Quintana is a better alll around fighter than margarito. But what means you have more power, Koing Quintana or Margarito?

            You see what Im tying to get?

            Juanma has definetly more power and is stronger, Rafa is a great counterpuncher with good power tho!!!!!!!!!!
            of the same quality as mark too sharp johnson??

            dont get me wrong i do think juanma probbaly does hit a little harder but you cant use that argument

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            • Silencers
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              #46
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              Juanma have Ko 2 people that havent been KD in their whoñle carreers.

              De LEon and Peñalosa(Wich wasnt a rel KO, just a stoppage).


              ANyways, Juanma Hits way, harder, he hurts people with gracing shots.

              He is naturaly heavy handed. Marquez punching power comes more with his speed and skills.


              Juanma its way harder. a Vazquez-Juanma fight could prove this!!!!!!!!!!!!
              Penalosa wasn't knocked down, the De Leon knockout was impressive but can you honestly say Marquez wouldn't have knocked him out? Marquez would have knocked De Leon out as well. And Marquez is a naturally big puncher, he's stopped a higher quality of opposition than Lopez has, until Lopez knocks out truly A-class fighters, I won't say he's a bigger puncher than Marquez.

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              • Heru
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                #47
                Rafa still has that one punch knockout power from 118, but it's hard to show it against Vazquez. Juanma is a slightly bigger pure puncher though, there's a photo of him, Cotto, and Calderon around that shows him having huge hands, even bigger than Cotto's. Heavy hands+precision punching=The harder puncher.

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                • El Chicano
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                  Rafa still has that one punch knockout power from 118, but it's hard to show it against Vazquez. Juanma is a slightly bigger pure puncher though, there's a photo of him, Cotto, and Calderon around that shows him having huge hands, even bigger than Cotto's. Heavy hands+precision punching=The harder puncher.
                  I met him in Vegas, the kid has some mitts on him, I'm a normal sized dude (5'10", 190lbs) and his hands are almost as big as mine, but Rafael has some big mitts too and some very prominent knuckles (check out some pics). That's part of the reason both fighters can crack.

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                  • El Chicano
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    Penalosa wasn't knocked down, the De Leon knockout was impressive but can you honestly say Marquez wouldn't have knocked him out? Marquez would have knocked De Leon out as well. And Marquez is a naturally big puncher, he's stopped a higher quality of opposition than Lopez has, until Lopez knocks out truly A-class fighters, I won't say he's a bigger puncher than Marquez.
                    Very true, Rafa's KO's of Too Sharp and Tim Austin prove his power at the elite level.

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