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  • Originally posted by BmoreBrawler View Post
    the best fighters at his weight have not been black. Does Pac need to implement an affirmative action policy to appease the reverse-discriminators? Boxingscene is a joke for posting this article.
    surely nate campbell was better at 135 that david diaz...

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    Originally posted by chiyoko View Post


    That's why Black fighters are not on PPV, They're plain out boring, who the **** wants to see dancing and running around? I can go see them to that at my corner.Mexicans are the big money attactions.so I dont blame pacman.....but Like I said before Manny would destroy any black fighter in the lightweight and superlight division and including Mayrunner.
    oscar's the only mexican ppv draw......

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    • NOW CASAMAYORS BLACK TOO!!GUZMAN,CASAMAYOR next theyll call PAVLIK BLACK.AFRICAN AMERICAN-does anyone know what that means???Or are they pulling a MONEYLESS"MAYWEATHER acting like they don't hear!!its beutifull!!!

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      • The anwser to the write up is """" NO """" !!!!!!

        I don't remember Morales , Barrera , or JMM fighting Gusman, sp.

        That would be like saying great Mexicans are afraid to fight black men. Whewwwwwwww how dumb !

        It ain't the color of the skin that makes the fighter great, its about TIMING, speed with Timing, a great punch comes from timing with the whole body, ability , meaning skills, taking a punch, some have a glass jaw, GAME : will stay in the trenches and fight to win not fight to survive.

        Pacman is the Mang , the whole package, I thought Mayweather would be but he is acting like a coward, a CUR who won't fight guys his size, like Mosley.

        Win or lose NO ONE will ever be able to tag Pac with the sign that says he wouldn't fight all comers , or the big boys, all he has ever done is fight bigger people.

        Can't say that about the pretty boy. That interview on espn showed his true colors,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,CUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Dr. BOkacky the Medicine Mang

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        • [QUOTE=Tongva;5353712]
          Originally posted by chiyoko View Post


          That's why Black fighters are not on PPV, They're plain out boring, who the **** wants to see dancing and running around? I can go see them to that at my corner.Mexicans are the big money attactions.so I dont blame pacman.....but Like I said before Manny would destroy any black fighter in the lightweight and superlight division and including Mayrunner.
          Boxing is an art,there are many people who appreciate the finer things in life,the general ringmanship,the movement,the flair.The only reason many blacks are not as much ppv is because boxing is not about ability anymore,it is about race.The Mexicans will back Mexicans,the Puerto Rican will back the Puerto Rican.People dont even back a New Yorker who is fighting in New York unless he is of the same colour.People will back a Puerto Rican in New York because of his skin.Only in England are people more open to other races.

          You only need to check how blacks have a more rounded style of fighting,from Mayweather to Judah,Hopkins to Dawson,Mosley to Guzman,these guys have a style ,they use vectors and are precision punchers.It is this style that Manny is avoiding.

          On the other hand tell me a Mexican fighter who doesnt get hit,they get hit so much and they got scar tissue.Those are the type of fighters Manny likes fighting,the ones who take 4 shots to deliver one.Blacks are just to smart for this dude and he will be running to Cotto very soon because Mosley and Mayweather will kill him.Why Cotto because Cotto gets hit a lot so Manny can steal rounds .

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          • I take nothing away from Pacquiao's victories and accomplishments.Right now he is the man to beat. But the truth is the truth and facts are facts.Name one top ten black fighter that Paquiao has beaten.No, let me change that.Name one black fighter that Pacquiao has been in the ring with in the last six years.The answer is...NONE!The question to the thread is, "Has Pacquiao avoided fighting african americans?"The answer is"YES HE HAS!" Does that make him less of a fighter? No. Does that mean he is truly the pound for pound best. Hell no!Until he beats Tim Bradley, Mosley,Mayweather,Guzman,or even Zab Judah at 140,he cannot be called p4p best. Lets look at why he hasn't fought black fighters. Styles make fights.His style is only effective against guys who stand right in front of him and come after him.Then, he can use his athletic ability and hand and foot speed to get in and out.He had problems with Marquez and Morales because they equal him in those areas.Black boxers are taught to fight,but many are born athletes.Hand and foot speed comes natural to them.That's why a legend like Eric Morales shined against other mexicans greats but lost easily to an average black fighter.This would be the same result if or when Pacquiao faces a top ten black fighter.His trainer and manager knows it and Bob Arum knows it.That's why it hasn't taken place.If he faces Mayweather,it will be a hell of a fight and close.But PFM still gets the victory.And there's no shame in losing to him.But the truth is, Pacquiao loses to even lesser black fighters.I think Tim Bradley beats him.They damn near have the same exact style.I see Mosley knocking him out.And I see Zab giving him fits with the hand speed and southpaw style.(Southpaws are not used to fighting other southpaws.) Listen... this is not about being racist,its about being truthful and knowing the sport of boxing.

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            • [QUOTE=Tongva;5353712]
              Originally posted by chiyoko View Post


              That's why Black fighters are not on PPV, They're plain out boring, who the **** wants to see dancing and running around? I can go see them to that at my corner.Mexicans are the big money attactions.so I dont blame pacman.....but Like I said before Manny would destroy any black fighter in the lightweight and superlight division and including Mayrunner.
              you forgot their best HOPKINS,MOSLEY,WARD,BERTO,WILLIAMS-all need to hit and hold to compete.Hit ,then hold then decide to let go hit again then hold ALL fight.Mosley did it to Margo,Hopkins does it to everyone,Berto FORBES,COLLAZO-from now on,Williams did it MArgo and Winky WARD did it to MIranda.If we want to get real blacks genetically are NOT GIFTED with good chins,therefore RARELY can they go toe to toe,they heed to MASTER the art of hitting and not getting hit(holding= cheating) to compete.

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              • Originally posted by arcticfalconer View Post
                The anwser to the write up is """" NO """" !!!!!!

                I don't remember Morales , Barrera , or JMM fighting Gusman, sp.

                That would be like saying great Mexicans are afraid to fight black men. Whewwwwwwww how dumb !

                It ain't the color of the skin that makes the fighter great, its about TIMING, speed with Timing, a great punch comes from timing with the whole body, ability , meaning skills, taking a punch, some have a glass jaw, GAME : will stay in the trenches and fight to win not fight to survive.

                Pacman is the Mang , the whole package, I thought Mayweather would be but he is acting like a coward, a CUR who won't fight guys his size, like Mosley.

                Win or lose NO ONE will ever be able to tag Pac with the sign that says he wouldn't fight all comers , or the big boys, all he has ever done is fight bigger people.

                Can't say that about the pretty boy. That interview on espn showed his true colors,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,CUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                Dr. BOkacky the Medicine Mang

                Pacquiao only ducked
                The black Korean- In-jin chi
                The black indonesioan- chris john
                The black brit- scott harrison
                The black argentinian- jorge barrios
                The black mexican lightweight greats
                The black venezulean- edwin valero.

                He only ducked Raheem because Raheem would've hugged him to death.
                And plus rumors were Raheem is really caucasian...


                Pac has never ducked the money though.

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                • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  Pac has no defense and is subject to the counter punch. He is pure
                  speed and aggression while Floyd is a patient thinker and picks his
                  shots and can fight offensive and defensively EQUALLY and has
                  great speed. Pacquiao is most def very exciting but going in for the
                  kill can get you KO'd against the wrong guy. Pacquiao is very good
                  but technical and fundementally, he is not better than Floyd.
                  Man! I think you're Out of this World for a while. Where did you go?
                  The Pacquiao you knew is already gone~ He is now a TRANSFORMER! hehe

                  With the exception of Marquez, name one fighter that penetrates PacMan's Defense? NONE!

                  I don't think Floyd is better boxer than Manny!
                  I think your definition of "Better Boxer" is defense oriented safety first style!
                  As a boxing fan, I don't like that fighting style! I prefer boxers who are willing to engage~ So that I can see a fight~

                  The only way to know who is better boxer between Mayweather & Pacquiao is to settle it in the Ring!

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                  • Originally posted by dwidsid3d View Post
                    NOW CASAMAYORS BLACK TOO!!GUZMAN,CASAMAYOR next theyll call PAVLIK BLACK.AFRICAN AMERICAN-does anyone know what that means???Or are they pulling a MONEYLESS"MAYWEATHER acting like they don't hear!!its beutifull!!!
                    Since you dont know, yes Casamayor and Guzman are of AFRICAN descent. Dont worry NO ONE will ever stake that claim on Pavlik...

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                    • Originally posted by dwidsid3d View Post
                      NOW CASAMAYORS BLACK TOO!!GUZMAN,CASAMAYOR next theyll call PAVLIK BLACK.AFRICAN AMERICAN-does anyone know what that means???Or are they pulling a MONEYLESS"MAYWEATHER acting like they don't hear!!its beutifull!!!
                      I don't call ppl like you fight fans. I call them ignorant. It's not about african american fighters, it's that Manny is afraid of fighting black fighters. Yes Casamayor is considered a black cuban, Guzman a black dominican. Why would they say that Pavlik is black when he fights like a mummy and has no footwork. Once again ppl like you hate to hear the truth.

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