Fury Blows Away Belshaw, Demands Chisora Clash

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  • Dave Rado
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    #71
    Originally posted by gingeralbino
    Your complaining about the quality of opposition he's fighting, he wants to fight for the british title already, and he'll probably get a shot in 6 months time.
    He has far too much focus on fighting British opposition; he should be fighting learning fights against tough opposition with a wide variety of styles at this stage of his careeer, who can test him without beating him. That's the right way to bring on a prospect, and is how fighters like Holyfield and Cotto were brought on, but is very rarely how British prospects are brought on. If they fight foreign competition at all in their early career it's usually complete bums whom they can't learn anything from fighting. They get seriously over-protected until they jump up to world class, and it's usually far too sudden a jump.

    Belshaw just stood in front of him, had no defence, no attack, and didn't have the conditioning to take any body punches. He was not a test, and it was a pointless fight, except in the strict sense that Fury got another fight under his belt and looked quite good against a useless opponent. Hennessy could get him more meaningful tests than this if he tried.
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 05-24-2009, 11:57 AM.

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    • HeartAttack
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      He has far too much focus on fighting British opposition; he should be fighting learning fights against tough opposition with a wide variety of styles at this stage of his careeer, who can test him without beating him. That's the right way to bring on a prospect, and is how fighters like Holyfield and Cotto were brought on, but is very rarely how British prospects are brought on. If they fight foreign competition at all in their early career it's usually complete bums whom they can't learn anything from fighting. They get seriously over-protected until they jump up to world class, and it's usually far too sudden a jump.

      Belshaw just stood in front of him, had no defence, no attack, and didn't have the conditioning to take any body punches. He was not a test, and it was a pointless fight, except in the strict sense that Fury got another fight under his belt and looked quite good against a useless opponent. Hennessy could get him more meaningful tests than this if he tried.
      C'mon Dave show a little love. Sometimes we forget that this sport is all about entertainment. The kid has 6 fights and we are talking about him. Not because of his manament and not because of Frank Warren, but because he has put himself in the spotlight with his verbal assaults and has kept himself there with his physical ones. Listen, he looked markedly better in the fight against Belshaw than the previous ones, and if Ashanti Jordan had fought the same opposition than we'd be happy and if Deontay Wilder looked that good against that type of comp in his 6th fight we'd be happy. Granted I would like to see Fury tighten his physique in the interim, but the kid is staying busy and is improving. I too like David Price (both the boxer and the pitcher for thr Tampa Bay Rays), but no one is creating as much attention for themselves as Fury is. That is an underappreciated skill he has. Let him create the buzz on the regional level and endear himselves to his countrymen. I respect that. I hope he continues. I would like to see him clear out the commonwealth. If he can get Chisora, McDermott, Williams, and then step up to Kertson Manswell, the kid would give himself some real credence and have something big to build on.

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      • PrettyBoy22
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        #73
        Maybe he hasn't "beaten anyone" yet but give him a chance. He's hardly had a long career- he's about 6 or 7 fights into it. You can't expect him to go out fighting for titles already, just let him be. The British media overhypes everyone early

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          #74


          He looked ok in the fight, i want to see him lose some flab and put some muscle on tho, he moves ok and fairly fast hands for a HW tho.

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          • Dave Rado
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            #75
            Originally posted by HeartAttack
            C'mon Dave show a little love. Sometimes we forget that this sport is all about entertainment. The kid has 6 fights and we are talking about him. Not because of his manament and not because of Frank Warren, but because he has put himself in the spotlight with his verbal assaults and has kept himself there with his physical ones. Listen, he looked markedly better in the fight against Belshaw than the previous ones, and if Ashanti Jordan had fought the same opposition than we'd be happy and if Deontay Wilder looked that good against that type of comp in his 6th fight we'd be happy. Granted I would like to see Fury tighten his physique in the interim, but the kid is staying busy and is improving. I too like David Price (both the boxer and the pitcher for thr Tampa Bay Rays), but no one is creating as much attention for themselves as Fury is. That is an underappreciated skill he has. Let him create the buzz on the regional level and endear himselves to his countrymen. I respect that. I hope he continues. I would like to see him clear out the commonwealth. If he can get Chisora, McDermott, Williams, and then step up to Kertson Manswell, the kid would give himself some real credence and have something big to build on.
            I agree with a lot of what you say, I'm simply saying that for Fury's own sake, Hennessy should be looking for some tough foreign competition with a variety of styles, who can test him without beating him - rather than focussing so much on British competition of dubious quality - so that he can learn from each fight and develop his skills properly. That's how the likes of Arum bring on young prospects, and IMO it is the right way. I think British match-makers tend to be far too insular in their thinking.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #76
              Originally posted by PrettyBoy22
              Maybe he hasn't "beaten anyone" yet but give him a chance. He's hardly had a long career- he's about 6 or 7 fights into it. You can't expect him to go out fighting for titles already, just let him be. The British media overhypes everyone early
              It's not about fighting for titles, it's about having fights he can learn from, so that when he steps up in class, he'll be ready.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                I agree with a lot of what you say, I'm simply saying that for Fury's own sake, Hennessy should be looking for some tough foreign competition with a variety of styles, who can test him without beating him - rather than focussing so much on British competition of dubious quality - so that he can learn from each fight and develop his skills properly. That's how the likes of Arum bring on young prospects, and IMO it is the right way. I think British match-makers tend to be far too insular in their thinking.
                I agree whole-heartedly to a point. there is enough talent for the level he is at now. And if you gets past the fighters that I mentioned like Williams, Sprott, Rogan, and Manswell, then he will have proven himself. There is more truth to your point than many people realize. There aren't really any different types of style on the British scene, just smarter and tougher guys as you move up. Sprott and Kertson could give him the boxer-puncher (more emphasis on boxer than puncher with those two) and Rogan could give him a ****er style. Besides those two styles, thats it. And I see your point as to what he needs to develop, but the rate he is moving on the British scene, he could move onto the European level by fight 20, and thats where he'll learn. But to be able to defeat all local competition first will give him a great fanbase (or as with Mayweather, a large group of detractors that want to see him fail) and will provide the notoriety needed to land the fights he wants and needs to grow. Will he be a world-beater, not in my mind. He's a tall British fighter and nothing special in my book. Lennox holds that spot with Bruno lagging a bit behind. But he already is better known than the likes of Alexander Dimitrenko, Taras *****ko, and even Francesco Pianeta. All fighters who had better amateur pedigree and respectable pro careers (In Dimitrenko's defense, he is about to break out on the international scene). So he is a blessing to the British heavyweight scene regardless of what he can and cannot learn on that level

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                • BetterCallSaul
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                  #78
                  Tyson has won six fights by ko in 6 months. His opposition is good compared to how early he is in his career.

                  He is going about his career the right way. British titles before the end of the year, European titles soon after, and hopefully world titles after that. Anybody who is hating him for his opposition doesn't have a clue.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                    At the Colosseum in Watford, Hertfordshire, heavyweight prospect Tyson Fury (6-0, 6KOs) blew away Scott Belshaw (10-2, 7KOs) in two rounds of action. Fury, instead of targeting the head, made a decision to go to the body and that was key to overcoming the once-beaten, but never previously stopped, Belshaw. [details]
                    This wanker should just build his own name instead of riding on Chisora.
                    What's wrong with all these hypes,we saw the same with Enzo Macarinelli.He was busy bad mouthing Haye especially when Haye had signed to fight against McComerc.When they finally got into the ring Enzo didnt even last 2 rounds.

                    Fury should be content fighting nobodies.If he wants to prove himself there are a lot of fighters out there,Sprott,Skelton,Rogan.I've never heard him mentioning all these guys,typeical of w.a.n.k.e.r.s.

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                    • paul750
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                      #80
                      I think Belshaw was supposed to be a good amatuer, but the guy doesn't look like he has any skill at all.

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