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brass boy just wasnt the ihteto execute that game plan.
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roach had the plan, oscar for what ever reason, didnt roll with it. couldve been a case of ol dog new tricks...or oscar just plain ******.
a mayweather fight will be the most technically difficult one for pacman/roach. how do you dismantle a counter puncher?...feign the attack and then counter the counter?...pbf has a few pet moves he employs going back, you'll spot the same ones over and over...obviously his speed is a factor but he has a limited repertoire. pbf wont come out so manny will have to go get him.Comment
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That is true. But that's more closely related to execution than gameplan. And i doubt Roach would use the same gameplan he had for Oscar with Pacquiao because they are 2 different fighters and that plan obviously did not work.
While Pacquiao does still have that tendency to jump in head first...his lateral movement and newfound abilities to think in the ring, make adjustments and ability to counterpunch would not keep Mayweather from landing...but would keep him from landing consistently.
I would say that Pacquiao may use feints to draw the counter from Mayweather and counter the counterpunch....but Mayweather has a huge reach advantage and Pacquiao probably would not be able to afford taking any steps backward.Comment
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Manny has improved but if he gets into a boxing battle of the minds I think he is playing into Floyd's hands. Also Manny has done best when Plan A works like a charm when plan A does not work he can fall back on some things but as shown with the JMM fights if you can get him off plan A or limit plan A's effectiveness you limit the effectiveness of Pacman. I think Roach can come up with a good plan A but I have yet to really see him pull out a plan B and make it work (100% anyways because in the 2nd JMM fight Pacman did not fall apart like the first one).
Will be interesting to watch though because plan A is not enough to beat Floyd (imo) you have to be able to go to B, C and maybe even D.
About the specifics of the fight it is hard to say because they are both unique fighters so whatever happeaned before may not really apply in this fight, that is why I want to see it.Comment
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Well like i said in my original post...
if pacquiao keeps jabbing and probing without overextending himself...Mayweather wont have anything to counterpunch. And that shoulder roll is fairly easy to time while it resets.
The problem is that Floyd is smart and WILL make adjustments. So the big question is whether Roach and Pacquiao will be able to force Mayweather to adjust in a manner they can anticipate.Comment
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no he didnt, roach is great with pac average with everyone else......he didnt do great work with hopkins and toney......the whole thing with oscars jab being the dominant factor is a myth, its not like oscar has a vernon forrest long type jab......Comment
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10 oz. heavyweight gloves?
lmao
floyd stans always quote things they hear floyd say.
EVERY fight in vegas at the time above 140 used 10 oz. gloves.
140 and under used 8 ouncers and above 140 fights used 10 ouncers. lol
you talk as if only heavyweights used 10 ounce gloves and oscar made him use them in the contract.
it was regulations by the NSAC at the time that every fight above 140 lbs. used 10 ounce gloves.Last edited by WhoreUs; 05-21-2009, 06:34 PM.Comment
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And he gave him 12 pounds on the night dont forget the 12 pds its a big deal ,,,,, lots of fighter can go ok for a few rounds , Zab went ok untill a slight adjustment timing and some bodywork and that was Zab in his place , Hatton tried his bull rush and was offset with a simple jab to the body as he hopped in , Oscar had a little success with the jab and then right hands over the top shut it down ,,,, Floyd is like a chess master you cant work out a game plan because Floyd makes changes and then they dont know how to deal with that , the guy is a ring general of the highest order fantastic fighting brain .Comment
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