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  • LEFTYGUNZZ
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    #21
    Originally posted by mangler
    As long as cats are watchin your fights, you're doin sumthin right.
    Hey Mangler I saw JR in another post very cool you got a mini me sir....How you doin? ....Lefty

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    • MANGLER
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      #22
      Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
      Hey Mangler I saw JR in another post very cool you got a mini me sir....How you doin? ....Lefty
      What's good Lefty? I'm cool. Business has slowed down now so I'm just killin time on here til clients start callin in again homey.

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      • Horus
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        #23
        Originally posted by 2501
        People respect those who take challenges period. Win or lose. If Floyd were to take on either Mosley or Cotto and dominate in a completely flawless, effortless manner, he would get mad respect from people who criticize him for taking "less risky" fights.

        Its not a matter of, "well if he beats this guy, then there will always be someone else people want Floyd to fight". Thats always been BS.

        Realize this.

        Casual fans will want whatever fight HBO and PROMOTERS pitch and scam them into buying.

        Boxing fans will always want the fights they KNOW will be great and competitive.

        There was NOT a clamour, a huge demand for DLH/Mayweather. Boxing fans, writers, analysts knew it would mostly likely be a dry fight.

        Only Hatton fans were requesting Hatton/Mayweather. Prior to Hatton calling out Floyd, that fight wasn't even a huge thought. Even after signed, you had people of merit saying Hatton doesnt deserve to be in the ring with Floyd.

        When a fighter is CONSTANTLY BADGERED about fights like Floyd has such as Mosley and Cotto, you KNOW those are the fights boxing fans want to see. We ALL want to be able to give Floyd the props he deserves. He just first has to earn them.
        2501,
        honestly

        How can you say Floyd has never been tested when you see he has 2 wins on his record against Jose Luis Castillo?

        How can you say Floyd hasnt earn respect when the man fight his way to the top from the ground up.

        i am not going to stat drop because you know i can do that but be honest with yourself and recognize floyd has earned the respect that some of you guys do give him.

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          #24
          Good post lefty, damn 2501 where have you been man? the Floyd hatred ain't the same without you.

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          • 2501
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            #25
            Originally posted by Horus
            2501,
            honestly

            How can you say Floyd has never been tested when you see he has 2 wins on his record against Jose Luis Castillo?

            How can you say Floyd hasnt earn respect when the man fight his way to the top from the ground up.

            i am not going to stat drop because you know i can do that but be honest with yourself and recognize floyd has earned the respect that some of you guys do give him.
            Thats the thing though. When one talks about tough fights and floyd mayweather, they talk about the PAST. They talk about the lightweight days, the pre lightweight days.

            How long ago was that? Why do we have to live in the past when talk about Floyd when he is STILL fighting in the future?

            If you research any of my content, you'll never find me saying:

            1. Floyd is overated
            2. He is not a ATG

            I respect Floyd for what he has done, but I will not respect him for what he COULD do.

            One thing you guys have to realize is this, Floyd says he's out to fight the BEST. Floyd says he's out to fight for LEGACY. Has he really been doing that these past 5 years? Thats where the criticism comes from.

            We have common sense right? We KNOW JMM is not a harder or BIGGER fight than SSM or Cotto.

            Everyone in the community knows this.

            But hey, Schaefer says Mosley and Cotto are in the radar for Floyd (even though Floyd said with Kenny they arent). So if thats true, respect.

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            • THE REED
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              #26
              Originally posted by 2501
              we can take it to the streets, **** making records.

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              • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                #27
                Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                What up Horus how you doing?

                Yes they want to see him truly tested and like I said in previous posts is it his fault his competition has fallen short of their expectations? Same deal with Roy Jones right...until Roy got KTFO then it was different for Roy now everyone doubting him and even in a a$s whooping (sorry Reed) he took for the Cal Slapper (sorry Calzaghe Fans) people respected him more in that loss then in the first 40 some odd wins and the 4 years that not one opponent was able to make it standing to the final bell. they respected him more because he proved to them he was human like them. he bleed and looked like a beaten warrior. he made it to the final bell standing up he may have lost that fight but he regained what many thought he lost his dignity after being able to come back from 3 big losses and 2 devastating knock outs to make it to the biggest stage once again right?

                Well Floyd hasn't been tested like that maybe not in the minds of most of the fans haters and huggers alike. What will all the fans say when they find out he is human and he bleeds just like us? When he is tested and he comes out and prevails. Honestly I think he has passed a few tests Zab tested him if even for only a few rounds. He tested his ability to maintain his composure in the ring. The low blows and the side show with the trainers and his Uncle Roger all that could have distracted Floyd he might have retaliated and lost on a Dq or better yet got distracted and ended up toes up at the sky right?

                Maybe he was tested right? How about when fought Chico who at the time was a monster at 135 everyone thought he was going to lose that fight right? He mangled Chico no diss to Chico he was a warrior through and through but Floyd just outclassed him that day. Not many can match skills let alone boxing wits with Floyd in the ring. most people fans and foes alike don't give him enough credit for the little things he does in the ring. Rolling his shoulder keeping his chin tucked in bringing his punches back quickly and moving his head. The purity of the sweet science he so perfected and makes look easy. Foot work and balance is the most important thing in boxing ask any fighter trainer and boxing guru and they will tell you it is all about foot work. He has great foot work and speed amazing at that he creates angles for him to punch without getting anything fired back in return. Like ****m said "swim without getting wet" Floyd does a lot of little things that go unnoticed in fighters until they stop doing them and then boom! they get KTFO....If you have ever stepped foot inside a ring and laced up some gloves sparred a few rounds or fought professionally then you can respect what it is that Floyd does and makes it look so easily.

                Judah had tremendous talents but much of it wasted because he failed to progress he stopped training hard or took fights lightly gave up in the face of adversity. People don't see Floyd as ever have being tested because maybe when things are getting hard for him in the ring he don't let on for people to see it as easily as others maybe because he turns it up another notch maybe it is because he has the extra notch there all the time. You dial it up and he turns it up higher if you are going to hate Floyd don't hate him for what you think he has not proved but hate for what he has proved time and time again that he is truly great. Don't look at the fighters he hasn't fought look at the ones he has fought and beaten. It is always easy to stand around stamp our feet and cry about what people haven't given us but not enough of us stand up and applaud when we get something good....Lefty
                Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                I agree and I think he has done that at 130-135...he made his bones down there and moved up for bigger money fights just like Manny is doing right now. So please explain the difference to me. manny moved up to 147 to fight Oscar and then dropped back down to 140 because manny beat Oscar at 147 is now considered a true WW and he must now fight everyone the public is demanding for? If that be true then screw it manny vs Williams I want to see that tree get chopped down by Manny PACMAN Pacquioa so make it happen. i am not a casual fan and I think it would be truly amazing to see him take out a step stool and stand on it just to aim a jab at that power forward of a fighters face.

                Come on listen to your self. It is the name of the game if they put the same 20 million on the table for Floyd to fight Godzilla instead of Oscar Floyd would have been wearing a fire proof suit sticking his lead right in that Reptiles eye balls best believe it.....Lefty
                2501 you nevr came back at me my man what happened/ I was waiting for a direct response to my posts in which I directly replied to you...Lefty

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                • 2501
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                  2501 you nevr came back at me my man what happened/ I was waiting for a direct response to my posts in which I directly replied to you...Lefty
                  hold up, im bossin at work son. gimme some time!

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                  • Shadow boxer 3
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                    If they love you they will pay to see you win if they hate you they will pay to see get KTFO....Either way they pay right? i guess Floyd is taking a page out of ALi's book....many hated Ali when he was active but after he retired from boxing more and more appreciated him. Will it be the same for Floyd? Oscar has retired and I know there was alot of hate towards Oscar and right now it is too soon but eventually will he be appreciated by even his biggest haters? Say what you can about the game and hate on it but don't hate on the players for playing. They can only do what you the fans allow them to do. Bottom line everyone wants to see a loud moutrh get his mouth punched shut right. Think about Ali's original name the Louisville Lip....remember that? Well i guess we got the 2009 version in Money May right? Well maybe not with the same charisma and class but yeah the 2009 version. With out the poems and the predictions with out the use of a vocabulary. i mean he does sport a wide version of vulgar descriptions for his opponents such as chicken, pu55y, f@ggot and other adjetives to describe his worthy opposition. His methods of selling his fights are a little bit different then Casuis but he get the job done right?....Lefty



                    good post. the people that hate floyd will be the first ones to order the fight cause they want to see him get beat.

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                    • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      hold up, im bossin at work son. gimme some time!
                      you must be handing out tons of orders cause it is like 10 hours later and I still hear crickets my man....Lefty

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