Mayweather’s Hit List Includes Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto

[LouIE G]

What do I mean? Well, every heard of the saying "a cherry pick went wrong"?

For example, Floyd was trying to cherry pick either Khan or Maidana last year. He chose Maidana. Maidana did much better than most people thought.

If Mosley connected better in the 2nd round, he could have KOed Floyd. It was still the same OLD, out of prime, inactive Mosley.

Floyd thought that Castillo couldn't have beat him.

I agree.. maidana did a hell of alot better then anybody ever thought in the first fight but floyd deserved the nod...i had it 115-113 floyd..

That punch that shane hit floyd with in the second round brought everyone out of their damn seats, and was anybody thinking mosely was old or past his prime then?? No. It was only until floyd took over the fight and won in dominating fashion that people used that as an excuse. As too why floyd won... ever heard the the term to describe mosely.. "oldsley"? It became mainstream after that fight.

And are you telling me that pac should get full credit for beating mosely, but not floyd?? Is that right?

[ADP02]

I agree.. maidana did a hell of alot better then anybody ever thought in the first fight but floyd deserved the nod...i had it 115-113 floyd..

That punch that shane hit floyd with in the second round brought everyone out of their damn seats, and was anybody thinking mosely was old or past his prime then?? No. It was only until floyd took over the fight and won in dominating fashion that people used that as an excuse. As too why floyd won... ever heard the the term to describe mosely.. "oldsley"? It became mainstream after that fight.

And are you telling me that pac should get full credit for beating mosely, but not floyd?? Is that right?

Why should Manny get more credit that Floyd? He should get about the same or even less because he fought him second ..... but almost the same as Manny fought an active Mosley. I didn't even want Manny to face Mosley.
If you look at Mosley's record, he struggled in 8 of his last 9 fights. Even though he lost the Cotto fight, Mosley did well though so it's better to say 7 of 8.


EDIT: Floyd against Mosley, Mosley gassed out after a few rounds of the fight. Go back at around the 6th round. He is asked something like what's wrong (physically) with you Mosley?



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[LouIE G]

Why should Manny get more credit that Floyd? He should get about the same or even less because he fought him second ..... but almost the same as Manny fought an active Mosley. I didn't even want Manny to face Mosley.
If you look at Mosley's record, he struggled in 8 of his last 9 fights. Cotto fight, Mosley did well though so it's better to say 7 of 8.

I think the mosely fight was predicated on the fact that people were noticing(because of a potential floyd fight) that he didnt fight strong quick african american fighters.. clottey doesnt count imo because he is not a typical american fighter, meaning he had a different style..

But since you are saying pac should get conceivably less credit for a mosely fight, why should he get credited more then floyd for wins against oscar, and hatton? Because hatton had more fights at jr ww then his 1 fight at ww?? I mean can it be possible that within 1 year floyd would turn into a natural ww? And if so why do some people refer to pac as a jr ww rather then a full blown ww which he has naturally fought at for 5 years?? Imo floyd and pac are two natural ww's and should be treated as such.. thoughts?

Edit:: i think besides being gassed, he was confused as to what floyd was doing out there.. the adjustments and speed baffled shane.

[ADP02]

I think the mosely fight was predicated on the fact that people were noticing(because of a potential floyd fight) that he didnt fight strong quick african american fighters.. clottey doesnt count imo because he is not a typical american fighter, meaning he had a different style..

But since you are saying pac should get conceivably less credit for a mosely fight, why should he get credited more then floyd for wins against oscar, and hatton? Because hatton had more fights at jr ww then his 1 fight at ww?? I mean can it be possible that within 1 year floyd would turn into a natural ww? And if so why do some people refer to pac as a jr ww rather then a full blown ww which he has naturally fought at for 5 years?? Imo floyd and pac are two natural ww's and should be treated as such.. thoughts?

At first, one can say that Floyd should get more credit than Manny against Oscar due to the weight but everyone expected Floyd to win that. While nobody expected Manny to beat Oscar. Also, Manny dominated Oscar while Floyd didn't.

Hatton: Manny all the way. Hatton was king at 140 not 147. You need to understand Hatton's style. It was effective against 140 fighters not 147 fighters.

Manny is naturally smaller than Floyd. Height, weight and reach. At WW, when Manny moves, he looks "heavy" and not able to flow as well as in the lower weights. Still relatively very good but I see it. It looks like WW is better suited for Floyd. In the Mosley fight, I was surprised but Floyd looked bigger than Mosley. Maybe he wasn't but that is what others said too.

[LouIE G]

At first, one can say that Floyd should get more credit than Manny against Oscar due to the weight but everyone expected Floyd to win that. While nobody expected Manny to beat Oscar. Also, Manny dominated Oscar while Floyd didn't.

Hatton: Manny all the way. Hatton was king at 140 not 147. You need to understand Hatton's style. It was effective against 140 fighters not 147 fighters.

Manny is naturally smaller than Floyd. Height, weight and reach. At WW, when Manny moves, he looks "heavy" and not able to flow as well as in the lower weights. Still relatively very good but I see it. It looks like WW is better suited for Floyd. In the Mosley fight, I was surprised but Floyd looked bigger than Mosley. Maybe he wasn't but that is what others said too.

No.. there were alot of people that backed oscar and thought he would win..i dont care about the so called experts cause theyre wrong more then right.. but since "everything should be taken into consideration" it should be noted that floyd beat oscar at his more natural weightclass.. pac beat him at a weight he hadnt fought at in 7 years.. oscar struggled to get down to 145,as to why he didnt trust his body and why he elected to eat otstrich eggs ffs! so floyd should get more credit for beating healthier oscar compared to a dehydrated oscar.. i mean even roach refered to the needle marks on oscars arm indicating IV use.. freddy knew he was phucked!!

Hatton?? Maybe because the fight happened at 140, but floyd had 3 fights at ww at the time they fought against 2 natural jr ww's and a small ww, while hatton fought once against collazo.. so imo floyd didnt have much of an advantage going into that fight.. it was really two jr ww's fighting for the ww title...yeah pac got the ko at 140, but fatton got beaten and koed first by floyd so both fighters should get about the same credit imo..i mean fatton had to lose more weight to fight pac, lets not forget. And nobody thought feather fisted floyd would knock out hatton.lol

Holyfield was too smll for hw but was still regarded as the best heavyweight for almost 10 years, so lets not use pacs size to diminish the fact he has fought at ww for the last 5-6 years and that his body hasnt grown into the weightclass... jjm is even considered a ww now, why wouldnt pac? Lol

[Robbie Barrett]

No.. there were alot of people that backed oscar and thought he would win..i dont care about the so called experts cause theyre wrong more then right.. but since "everything should be taken into consideration" it should be noted that floyd beat oscar at his more natural weightclass.. pac beat him at a weight he hadnt fought at in 7 years.. oscar struggled to get down to 145,as to why he didnt trust his body and why he elected to eat otstrich eggs ffs! so floyd should get more credit for beating healthier oscar compared to a dehydrated oscar.. i mean even roach refered to the needle marks on oscars arm indicating IV use.. freddy knew he was phucked!!

Hatton?? Maybe because the fight happened at 140, but floyd had 3 fights at ww at the time they fought against 2 natural jr ww's and a small ww, while hatton fought once against collazo.. so imo floyd didnt have much of an advantage going into that fight.. it was really two jr ww's fighting for the ww title...yeah pac got the ko at 140, but fatton got beaten and koed first by floyd so both fighters should get about the same credit imo..i mean fatton had to lose more weight to fight pac, lets not forget. And nobody thought feather fisted floyd would knock out hatton.lol

Holyfield was too smll for hw but was still regarded as the best heavyweight for almost 10 years, so lets not use pacs size to diminish the fact he has fought at ww for the last 5-6 years and that his body hasnt grown into the weightclass... jjm is even considered a ww now, why wouldnt pac? Lol

On fight night Pacquiao weighs around the same (150) as Mayweather.

[LouIE G]

On fight night Pacquiao weighs around the same (150) as Mayweather.

Exactly, i agree!! At this point they are two natural welterweights! I dont understand why pac fans seem to disagree with that notion?

[LouIE G]

Funny how now Floyd is a BS. Then you contradict yourself and say that Floyd called out Shane. I thought you just said that he is a BS?

Floyd calls out people but when the opponent calls his bluff, Floyd backs down. Mosley didn't say NO. He said lets do it a few months later since he had already fought twice that year. Floyd said NO!!! If Floyd really wanted to fight Mosley, he would have said YES. On top of that Floyd was ready to retire. You want Mosley or no name Baldomir on your resume if you are ready to retire?

Floyd did the same with Winky. When Winky even agreed to everything and went to sign the contract, Floyd changed the demand.

floyd has always been a bull****ter, he aint a perfect human. But neither are you and neither am I, but at least i can admit the faults of a fighter i support, can you?? And if you have watched boxing as long as you claim you would know floyd has been calling mosely out since he was at 130...Lol

Winky now??? In 2005 when floyd fought gatti at 140, who and where was winky fighting that year??? Oh yeah felix trinidad at 160. Lol did wright ever fight again at `54 or did he continue to fight at 160 and eventually 170 against hopkins??so lets be honest was floyd vs winky really a realistic fight??? Cmon man, its ok.. you can tell the truth!

Edit: mosely fought vargas twice that year once in feb. And again in july... floyd had fought once against judah... you say mosely wanted to fight a few months later, but didnt say that in his post fight interview after his ko of vargas... he elwcted to get his tooth fixed and go on vacation with his family... floyd fought the lineal champ(sad but true) baldomir while i believe mosely stayed unactive until cotto?(correct me if wrong). But then got the 2 mega fights against oscar and hatton...floyd negotiated a rematch with oscar, while cotto had fights with gomez and marg set, then mosely fought mayorga.. floyd retires and mosely becomes the lineal.. we all know what happened next!

[gamesworn]

On fight night Pacquiao weighs around the same (150) as Mayweather.

I don't believe Mayweather bs in his weight. That fight in maidana and the difference between their weights is unreal. He couldn't even weight 144 against his Marquez fight while Pac can comfortably go to 140. I'm not blind not to see the difference.

[Robbie Barrett]

I don't believe Mayweather bs in his weight. That fight in maidana and the difference between their weights is unreal. He couldn't even weight 144 against his Marquez fight while Pac can comfortably go to 140. I'm not blind not to see the difference.

WBC weigh Mayweather weeks before a fight and he's around 150, HBO weighed him and he was around 150, Showtime weigh him and he's around 150. They're all corrupt and lying over fight night weight just to make look smaller or he weighs around 150.

How do you know he couldn't make 144? He could have chose not to, draining weight is harder than most people think it is.

Pacquiao is used to draining 10+ lbs he's done it throughout his career. Mayweather has never gained more than a few lbs after a weigh in.