why do people say welter weights should fight welters?

**gingeralbino** · 05-20-2009, 12:57 PM

I'll translate: Welters should fight real Welters = Floyd should fight a real welter. Forget everyone else, they're not talking about them.

**larry x** · 05-20-2009, 12:58 PM

fighters have been moving up and moving down in weight throughout history..people should chill,shut the **** up and enjoy the fights....who was crying for billy conn when he fougt joe louis..and was outweighted by 30=pounds...

**larry x** · 05-20-2009, 12:59 PM

its just floyd hate period..cause floyd wants pacmna/jmm=hes picking on a smaller man

mosley passes on berto and waits on hatton/pacman winner=oh he just needs money its acceptable
cotto wants to fight pacman=this will be a great fight

see what im saying

**MANGLER** · 05-20-2009, 01:05 PM

**** catchweights. If it's realistic for a fighter to move all the way into a new division cuz he outgrew the last one, of course move up. It's not only fair, but necessary in those instances. Pac wantin a WW like Cotto to drop down cuz he can't fight effectively at 147 is dumb. If you can't be a full fledged WW, don't ****in bother. Fight at your own weight. If Mr boat buyer can't make JWW no more, fight at WW, and do so against a real ****in WW. Not like he once held the ****in 147 lb world title or anything.

**Ravishing** · 05-20-2009, 01:06 PM

I have no problem with the shifting of weight as it opens up more potential fights with anyone within one or two weight classes.

But if you are a Welterweight and there are other Welterweights who are marquee names in the sport, I believe you're doing an injustice by not fighting them and going for say a fighter who's 1 or 2 weight classes below you.

**Joe2608** · 05-20-2009, 01:07 PM

I like to see it, and it's been happening since the dawn of time. Sometimes it's better than fighting the guys in your division.
However, i think in this case it's different. Marquez barely settled into Lightweight and is already moving up another 2 divisions. Add in the factor that there's Mosley, Cotto and Williams to fight at Welterweight still and i think that's why. Marquez is small and there are various fighters to face who have more of a chance.

**Ravishing** · 05-20-2009, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by mangler

**** catchweights. If it's realistic for a fighter to move all the way into a new division cuz he outgrew the last one, of course move up. It's not only fair, but necessary in those instances. Pac wantin a WW like Cotto to drop down cuz he can't fight effectively at 147 is dumb. If you can't be a full fledged WW, don't ****in bother. Fight at your own weight. If Mr boat buyer can't make JWW no more, fight at WW, and do so against a real ****in WW. Not like he once held the ****in 147 lb world title or anything.

I agree to an extent. My belief is if you want the fighter who's in a higher class than you, then move up to their weight and vice versa...simply because you're already taking an advantage away from one fighter. Now in the case of Pacquiao, if he wants to fight Cotto, they should make it at the WW limit of 141-147 and not limit Cotto to make 143 and same for Floyd.

**Derranged_** · 05-20-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by gingeralbino

I'll translate: Welters should fight real Welters = Floyd should fight a real welter. Forget everyone else, they're not talking about them.

Thanks for the translation; I had no clue what the f.uck the thread creator was referring to...

**Pullcounter** · 05-20-2009, 01:33 PM

i don't think its wrong to ask a boxer to fight other boxers in their own weight divisions.

catchweights are fine as long as both sides agree to the weight. if they can't agree then don't make the fight.

IMHO catchweight fights aren't even necessary anyways.

why do people say welter weights should fight welters?