Since PBF is unretiring....

[chilost]

& the fight with JMM just turn'd into a WW limit fight, i got on Question?


Since may aint the ring champ, is he still the linear champ since its currently vacant seeing that no #1 has fought the #2 or #3 to fill it?

And if so, does that mean when JMM wins he will be the WW Linear Champ?



Right now Cyberzone has Mosley as the Linear champ. I dont see how the *** cuz when he fought Margie, he was no.4 and that dont fill the criteria.


thoughts???

[DrewWoodside]

& the fight with JMM just turn'd into a WW limit fight, i got on Question?


Since may aint the ring champ, is he still the linear champ since its currently vacant seeing that no #1 has fought the #2 or #3 to fill it?

And if so, does that mean when JMM wins he will be the WW Linear Champ?



Right now Cyberzone has Mosley as the Linear champ. I dont see how the *** cuz when he fought Margie, he was no.4 and that dont fill the criteria.


thoughts???

Mayweather Vacated and JMM isn't ranked at WW so no(I think.)

[Pullcounter]

& the fight with JMM just turn'd into a WW limit fight, i got on Question?


Since may aint the ring champ, is he still the linear champ since its currently vacant seeing that no #1 has fought the #2 or #3 to fill it?

And if so, does that mean when JMM wins he will be the WW Linear Champ?



Right now Cyberzone has Mosley as the Linear champ. I dont see how the *** cuz when he fought Margie, he was no.4 and that dont fill the criteria.


thoughts???

i still consider floyd the lineal champ because cotto/mosley II hasn't happened to create a new line.

so yeah, if jmm beats floyd he becomes the lineal WW champ in my book

[oc9979]

i still consider floyd the lineal champ because cotto/mosley II hasn't happened to create a new line.

so yeah, if jmm beats floyd he becomes the lineal WW champ in my book

sorry but in boxing you retire and you are not champ when you come back. not even the ring magazine has him ranked

[chilost]

okay i know he retir'd and gave up his belts (WBC\RING) but i aint talking bout actual belts here. I'm talking bout the championship history of the Man who beats the Man, etc......


The Lineal Welterweight Champs
The following list gives credit to "The Man Who Beat The Man." As always, ludicrous decisions of "sanctioning bodies" are ignored. Explore our On-Line Boxing Encyclopedia for more info. Comments can be sent to the Editors.Ciao!




Paddy Duffy (1888-1890, died 7/19/1890)
"Mysterious" Billy Smith (1892-1894)
Tommy Ryan (1894-1898, vacates title)
"Mysterious" Billy Smith (1898-1900)
William "Matty" Matthews(1900)
Eddie Connolly (1900)
James "Rube" Ferns (1900)
William "Matty" Matthews (1900-1901)
James "Rube" Ferns (1901)
Joe Walcott (1901-1904)
Dixie Kid (1904, outgrows division)
Billy "Honey" Mellody (1906-1907)
Mike "Twin" Sullivan (1907-1908, vacates title)
1908-1914 -- A mad scramble for the welterweight title followed Sullivan's reign. Among the claimants were Frank Mantell, Harry Lewis, Jimmy Gardner, Jimmy Clabby, Perry "Kid" Graves and future champs Jack Britton and Ted "Kid" Lewis.

Waldemar Holberg (1914)
Tom McCormick (1914)
Matt Wells (1914-1915)
Mike Glover (1915)
Jack Britton (1915)
Ted "Kid" Lewis (1915-1916)
Jack Britton (1916-1917)
Ted "Kid' Lewis (1917-1919)
Jack Britton (1919-1922)
Mickey Walker (1922-1926)
Pete Latzo (1926-1927)
Joe Dundee (1927-1929)
Jackie Fields (1929-1930)
"Young" Jack Thompson (1930)
Tommy Freeman (1930-1931)
"Young" Jack Thompson (1931)
Lou Brouillard (1931-1932)
Jackie Fields (1932-1933)
Young Corbett III (1933)
Jimmy McLarnin (1933-1934)
Barney Ross (1934)
Jimmy McLarnin (1934-1935)
Barney Ross (1935-1938)
Henry Armstrong (1938-1940)
Fritzie Zivic (1940-1941)
Freddie "Red" Cochrane (1941-1946)
Marty Servo (1946, vacates title)
"Sugar" Ray Robinson (1946; vacates crown 1950)
Kid Gavilan (1951-1954)
Johnny Saxton (1954-1955)
Tony DeMarco (1955)
Carmen Basilio (1955-1956)
Johnny Saxton (1956)
Carmen Basilio (1956-1957, relinquishes crown)
Virgil Akins (1958)
Don Jordan (1958-1960)
Benny "Kid" Paret (1960-1961)
Emile Griffith (1961)
Benny "Kid" Paret (1961-1962)
Emile Griffith (1962-1963)
Luis Manuel Rodriguez (1963)
Emile Griffith (1963-1966, vacates title)
Curtis Cokes (1966-1969)
Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles (1969-1970)
Billy Backus (1970-1971)
Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles (1971-1975)
John H. Stracey(1975-1976)
Carlos Palomino (1976-1979)
Wilfred Benitez(1979)
"Sugar" Ray Leonard(1979-1980)
Roberto Duran (1980)
"Sugar" Ray Leonard (1980-1982, vacated title )
Donald Curry (1985-1986)
Lloyd Honeyghan (1986-1987)
Jorge Vaca (1987-1988)
Lloyd Honeyghan (1988-1989)
Marlon Starling (1989-1990)
Maurice Blocker (1990-1991)
Simon Brown (1991)
James "Buddy" McGirt (1991-1993)
Pernell Whitaker (1993-1997)
Oscar De La Hoya (1997-1999)
Felix Trinidad, Jr. (1999-2000, vacates title)
"Sugar" Shane Mosley (2000-2002)
Vernon Forrest (2002-2003)
Ricardo Mayorga (2003)
Cory Spinks (2003-2004)

"Sugar" Shane Mosley (2009 to date) Dont know how they just gave it to him :UNSURE:

Also their missing info after Cory Spinx

Spinx lost the crown to Judah in 2005,
Judah lost it to Baldimor in 01/2006

Baldimor then lost the crown to Mayweather in 11/2006

Mayweather then retir'd and was never beat for the Linear WW Crown.



So the question is do you consider may the linear champ at WW or do you think the title should be vacant?

[-Hyperion-]

it shoud be mayweather since no one filled the vacancy in his retirement and the ring doesnt strip people anyways........i mean yeah he supposedly retired but the ring should give it back since no one filled the vacancy and maywather didnt lose it in the ring.......if jmm wins, man, it would be great for his legacy to go directly from linear lightweight to linear welterweight champ.......wow...