Why Does Pacquiao Need a Handicap to Beat Cotto, Mosley & Mayweather?

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  • SAN D13GO VILLAN
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    pac fighting at 147 was a one time deal against dlh. roach himself said pac would not fight at 147 again.

    unless cotto or mosley can guarantee pac dlh-like paydays, they will have to fight at a catchweight if they want to fight pac.
    But he looked so good at 147 vs Oscar, why couldn't he do it again? I would understand if he didnt do so good at 147 but he passed with flying colors, Like somebody else said, if you dont want to fight the best at their best then go fight somebody else!

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #12
      Roach said Pacquiao struggled to make 135 and that he's more comfortable at these higher weights and felt great at WW, but now he's too small? THEN FIGHT GUZMAN AT 140 and stop whining to the bigger fighters that want Pacquiao. What you expect if he already fought at WW? the WW will want him at WW too, **** man. ****in, Freddies' weight drained Festival.

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      • deanrw
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        #13
        Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN
        But he looked so good at 147 vs Oscar, why couldn't he do it again? I would understand if he didnt do so good at 147 but he passed with flying colors, Like somebody else said, if you dont want to fight the best at their best then go fight somebody else!
        That is exactly what they want to do to him. The most Manny ever weighed at a weigh in is 142lbs. Right now he is still just a glorified lightweight.

        So they obviously do not want to fight Manny at Manny's best either right? Twisting logic can work both ways. You know Manny is no welterweight. You know he has no business being there. If someone wants him bad enough, they will have to make sacrifices.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #14
          Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN
          But he looked so good at 147 vs Oscar, why couldn't he do it again?
          doesn't matter. roach says it's not happening again so it's not. stop crying about it.

          I would understand if he didnt do so good at 147 but he passed with flying colors, Like somebody else said, if you dont want to fight the best at their best then go fight somebody else!
          exactly!!! if cotto and mosley dont' want to fight pac at a catchweight then they can go fight each other.

          Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
          Roach said Pacquiao struggled to make 135 and that he's more comfortable at these higher weights and felt great at WW, but now he's too small?
          pac's official weight for hatton was 138 lbs. when was the last time cotto and mosley officially weighed 138 lbs???!!!!

          THEN FIGHT GUZMAN AT 140 and stop whining to the bigger fighters that want Pacquiao.
          lols... cotto and mosley are the ones calling out pac

          What you expect if he already fought at WW? the WW will want him at WW too, **** man. ****in, Freddies' weight drained Festival.
          roach said that dlh was a one shot deal. fight pac at a catchweight or walk.

          Originally posted by deanrw
          That is exactly what they want to do to him. The most Manny ever weighed at a weigh in is 142lbs. Right now he is still just a glorified lightweight.

          So they obviously do not want to fight Manny at Manny's best either right? Twisting logic can work both ways. You know Manny is no welterweight. You know he has no business being there. If someone wants him bad enough, they will have to make sacrifices.
          Exactly!!!! pac is making sacrifices on fight night by giving up lbs to cotto and mosley, to cotto and mosley needs to make sacrifices at the official weigh in.

          either fight at a catchweight or walk.

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          • Burner
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            #15
            Because the Oscar win was a fluke to help Oscar get more cash by having a gb promoted Hatton vs. Pac fight.

            Manny loses to Floyd..Mosley...Cotto...Berto....Clottey..Williams and any other WW...by KO.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Pullcounter

              either fight at a catchweight or walk.
              If Pac can have catch weights...so can Floyd.

              Dont start that double standard ****

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              • horge
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                #17
                Why do Floyd, Cotto and Mayweather need a handicap to beat Pac?
                It cuts both ways:
                One side wants the other to come down, or up, in weight.


                I guess I should exclude Cotto from all this.
                He volunteered to meet Pac at 145.
                Last edited by horge; 05-19-2009, 05:32 PM.

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                • theAleph
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jching
                  Yea they may be calling Pac out, but mainly because he has fought at WW once already and it didn't look to have any negative effect on him whatsoever. If he's done it once he can surely do it again, especially considering his natural weight class now is JWW. Also there are catchweights and then there's plain lodsidedness, and Roach wanting to fight Cotto at 140 is such a mismatch. I just hope Cotto and Mosely don't budge on the weight and make Pac fight the guys at 140 or below. Pac needs these guys just as much as they need him.
                  Floyd fought Oscar at 154, why's he fighting a lightweight? Surely, you're not advocating that Floyd go back to 154 right? Your logic leaves so much to be desired.

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                  • THE REED
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jantzen212003
                    Disagreed! Whats more difficult? Gaining weight that you already hit the scales at during your fight(in essence not worrying about weight) or cutting weight past the weight you struggle/battle to hit the day before the bout?

                    As a fan of RJJ, I would expect you to know better! If not then ask yourself why he looked like shyt during the 1st Tarver fight and recall the Tarver vs Hopkins fight!
                    Can we please not compare losing 18 pounds of muscle in a drop from HW to LHW..... to having to take off 3 extra pounds from the weight you normally make anyway..

                    Thanks.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The 5* General
                      If Pac can have catch weights...so can Floyd.

                      Dont start that double standard ****
                      lols... so then why doesn't floyd fight jmm at a catchweight?

                      Originally posted by horge
                      Why do Floyd, Cotto and Mayweather need a handicap to beat Pac?
                      It cuts both ways:
                      One side wants the other to come down, or up, in weight.


                      I guess I should exclude Cotto from all this.
                      He volunteered to meet Pac at 145.
                      exactly... pac moves up to the catchweight then cotto / mosley comes down to a catchweight. everybody wins.

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