I kept telling everyone before the De La Hoya vs Mayweather fight that

[FLY TY]

WOW.. they all wanted him this last fight.. doesn't mean he wouldn't have fought them if he had beaten Pacquio

DLH always had the balls to fight who was out there...

he never wanted winky.......

you're right, it doesn't mean he wouldn't have fought those guys, but it doesn't mean he would have either.

all i know, is what happened. all those guys wanted him, winky wanted oscar for years, but oscar was a JMW who decided to fight a lightweight.

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He probably meant during Oscar's prime. Why the hell at his old age fight PW??
He did want Cotto tho.

Let me tell you something, in Oscar's prime he would've fought Williams....right after Williams lost to Quintana and ONLY then.

[Khalid X]

DLH used to be good for boxing, but he ended on a **** note and lost a ton of respect from people. He cherrypicked a lil guy for easy $, and deserved every bit of hate and every second of the ass whoopin he got. I hope the same thing happens to Mr boat buyer for what he's pullin, but I know it happen, at least the beatdown part.

Ill respond to this because Mangler, your one of the posters on here I respect. Yes De La Hoya does deserve heat for that and I didnt like that move.
With that said...you also have to take into consideration that amount of dangerous fights and risk he has taken throughout his career so overall I still give Oscar props...taking his whole career into consideration.

Go up to middle weight to fight Hopkins, especially at the time he just came off of KO'ing Trinidad and was the undisputed MW champ of the world.

[FLY TY]

He probably meant during Oscar's prime. Why the hell at his old age fight PW??
He did want Cotto tho.

he ducked winky during his prime.

he didn't want cotto.....he said he had promised his wife he'd never fight another puerto rican....when mayweather retired, it ****ed oscar, b/c oscar had no little guys to pick on.

it was either margarito and PW, who both could make MW easily, or shane mosley who was his business partner.

so he chose a lightweight....and dude has the nerves to post that long ass article, and ppl cosign the ****.....

[Khalid X]

he ducked winky during his prime.

he didn't want cotto.....he said he had promised his wife he'd never fight another puerto rican....when mayweather retired, it ****ed oscar, b/c oscar had no little guys to pick on.

it was either margarito and PW, who both could make MW easily, or shane mosley who was his business partner.

so he chose a lightweight....and dude has the nerves to post that long ass article, and ppl cosign the ****.....

Why would Oscar fight Cotto when Cotto just got destroyed by Margarito? Also Pwilliams was building his name back up after losing to Quitana. I agreed that was a ***** move on Oscar for fighting that fight but throughout Oscar's career he took a lot of risk and fought big names so that I can let that slide.

Fact is Mayweather has rarely took risk in his career and this is coming from a fan. I'm not gonna argue with you because you are obviously a stan. I hold discussions with real boxing fans not nutthuggers. This is my last reply to you or any other floyd stan.

[Smashing]

Ive never been much of a Floyd fan, even though he is a brilliant boxer plus he has a clever business awareness, Floyd plays the villain very well and is good for the sport. Everyone loves someone to hate.
Where as i think Oscar who also is a great boxer plays the mister ultra nice guy but really is a very astute business/conman (Oscar v Pacman for instance) who has persuaded a lot of people to part with a lot of money watching over hyped and mismatched fights is the real cancer for the sport.
Oscar is the biggest conman in boxing today.

[FLY TY]

Why would Oscar fight Cotto when Cotton just got destroyed by Margarito? Also I agreed that was a ***** move on Oscar for fighting that fight but throughout Oscar's career he took alot of risk and fought big names so that I can let that slide.

Fact is Mayweather has rarely took risk in his career and this is coming from a fan. Im not gonna argue with you because you are obviously a stan. I hold discussions with real boxing fans not nutthuggers. This is my last reply to you or any other floyd stan.

no offense or anything. i agree, oscar took on a lot of challenges in his heyday. he also ducked some fighters too....

that's besides the point tho. my point is, this thread is a joke. you said, oscar beating mayweather would've been better for the sport....HOW?

i mean were NOT talking about the oscar from 8 years ago. at that point, oscar was fighting once a year, and fighting for the biggest money fights. get real, even for this fight in question, HE MADE MAYWEATHER MOVE UP IN WEIGHT, PICKED THE RING SIZE, PICKED THE GLOVE SIZE, ETC....he was already stacking the deck even BEFORE the fight.

then after the fight, he wanted a rematch, SAME CONDITIONS.....

mayweather retired, oscar ducked all those guys, and picked MANNY PACQUIAO, who had just fought at 135 lbs!!!!!!!

how the hell is oscar winning the fight, better for the sport????

i don't have any problems with ppl liking w/e fighters they like....i like floyd, you don't that's cool. i never argue w/ ppl on who they root for and against, b/c i don't care. i do, point out the bull**** hyprcritical statements when i come across them tho.

you saying, oscar winning would've been better for the sport, when he picked every advantage AGAINST floyd for that fight in question, lost then ducked a few quality opponents to fight a lightweight, makes this thread completely rididculous, and almost makes you look like a hater.

now, if you say marquez beating floyd is better for the sport, then that's your opinion and i won't argue.....but to say oscar winning that fight would've been better for the sport is crazy, my dude.

[FLY TY]

Why would Oscar fight Cotto when Cotto just got destroyed by Margarito? Also Pwilliams was building his name back up after losing to Quitana. I agreed that was a ***** move on Oscar for fighting that fight but throughout Oscar's career he took a lot of risk and fought big names so that I can let that slide.

Fact is Mayweather has rarely took risk in his career and this is coming from a fan. I'm not gonna argue with you because you are obviously a stan. I hold discussions with real boxing fans not nutthuggers. This is my last reply to you or any other floyd stan.

real talk, even before the cotto-margarito fight oscar was saying he wasn't fighting cotto, b/c he promised his wife he wouldn't fight any other PR. when margarito destroyed cotto, then it was, "i don't want to fight another mexican."

get real.

he could've fought winky(who had been chasing him for years), or mosley whom he had 2 very good fights with previously, but he chose the pacman.
it's comical.

the only reason ppl wanted oscar to win against mayweather was b/c oscar was the cash cow in boxing, and anybody he fought would've been big news, and that would've been good news for a sport that was on the downslide.

at that point in his career, oscar was done taking "challenges," so that ends your argument on him being good for the sport in recent years.

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I wish I knew about boxingscene around that time because I would have posted and put it in my sig. I have always been a fan of boxing since the late 80's and Ive been following Floyd probably longer than anyone on here(not to brag, just keeping it real). Anyways I was at this huge party that some friends of mine had that was hosting the Mayweather/De La hoya fight, and everyone was asking who each person thought would win. Mind you I was the only black person there and it had to be over 50 something Mexicans. Everyone was saying how they loved De La Hoya, but thought mayweather would win.

They finally asked me what I thought and I said I think Mayweather might win but I hope DE LA HOYA WINS BECAUSE, AND I QOUTE, A FLOYD WIN WOULD BE BAD FOR BOXING. I hate to post this **** years after it happened because I makes it seem like I'm lying but again, I've always been a hardcore fan of boxing just never went online to post on forums.

I even explained that you can say what you want to say but Oscar has always went out a made big boxing matches for the fans. Dude went up to MW to fight Hopkins, gave us vargas, trinidad, quartey and other big fights and never turned down the big time fights people wanted to see.

I knew if Floyd won the **** that we see happening today would happen because this is has always been Floyd's style of making fights. Like I have said I have followed Floyd longer than probably anyone on here and have saw this attitude since he started. I use to be a fan but abandoned him years ago due to his disrespect of his opponents, former champs, and the sport as a whole. Even before Morales called him out I saw the ***** tendancies in him so you can say what you want, bottom line is Floyd is a cancer to the sport. I saw it years ago and Im glad people are finally starting to see it.

I disagree, floyd's win was good for the sport, but floyd needs to fight WWs and if he fights smaller fighters he needs to make the fight atleast seem fair.

[Khalid X]

no offense or anything. i agree, oscar took on a lot of challenges in his heyday. he also ducked some fighters too....

that's besides the point tho. my point is, this thread is a joke. you said, oscar beating mayweather would've been better for the sport....HOW?

i mean were NOT talking about the oscar from 8 years ago. at that point, oscar was fighting once a year, and fighting for the biggest money fights. get real, even for this fight in question, HE MADE MAYWEATHER MOVE UP IN WEIGHT, PICKED THE RING SIZE, PICKED THE GLOVE SIZE, ETC....he was already stacking the deck even BEFORE the fight.

then after the fight, he wanted a rematch, SAME CONDITIONS.....

mayweather retired, oscar ducked all those guys, and picked MANNY PACQUIAO, who had just fought at 135 lbs!!!!!!!

how the hell is oscar winning the fight, better for the sport????

i don't have any problems with ppl liking w/e fighters they like....i like floyd, you don't that's cool. i never argue w/ ppl on who they root for and against, b/c i don't care. i do, point out the bull**** hyprcritical statements when i come across them tho.

you saying, oscar winning would've been better for the sport, when he picked every advantage AGAINST floyd for that fight in question, lost then ducked a few quality opponents to fight a lightweight, makes this thread completely rididculous, and almost makes you look like a hater.

now, if you say marquez beating floyd is better for the sport, then that's your opinion and i won't argue.....but to say oscar winning that fight would've been better for the sport is crazy, my dude.

Ok Im gonna back up from my comments earlier to you because I had you mistaken for another poster I have a run it with earlier. That guy was an unreasonable idiot.

With that said, IMO Oscar was fighting once a year like that during that time, because he was trying to get GBP off the ground and up in running. If he didn't lose to Floyd...I felt we would have got to see him get in the ring with Cotto, Trinidad rematch, fight with Hatton, 3rd Mosley fight, hell even a margarito fight.


With Floyd, like I have said I have followed Floyd forever. The man hardly ever takes risk, and to be honest, I doubt we will ever see him get in the ring with Cotto, Mosley, Pwill or any top tier welterweight. Man have you ever listened to Floyd back in the day, if so then you would know what I'm talking about. I actually respect his skill in the ring, but he has always shut the fans out of big time fights. That has and never will change. We may get him vs Pac, but only because of the money it would bring. Unless big money is involved, Floyd refuses to take risk.

Like I said I blasted you earlier, but I appologize. I always try to be reasonable, so if I'm wrong please correct me. Here is what I meant:


Oscar wins:
Trinidad, Cotto, Mosley rematch, Hatton
wild card fights...Margarito(maybe a stretch) and I would put it past De La Hoya that he would have went back to middle weight to fight Pavlik

Floyd wins:
Hatton, pac then retire.

I want big time fights and my faith in Floyd producing them for the fans died during his 130lb days. Oscar, while I never really liked, has always went out on the limb, even though sometimes has pulled ***** moves every now and then.