PBF's achievement is NO MATCH TO PAC's.

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Floyd has never lost. Manny has officially lost 3 times, and most people think he should have at least 5 losses against his name.

Floyd had 39 fights. If he'd had 15 more (54 fights like Manny) against the competition he should have been fighting, he would probably have losses too.

It's funny, though. I've seen people bragging about Floyd's "0" -- the same people who try and **** on Calzaghe and say his "0" doesn't mean anything.

PS: If you're gonna play the "most people think" game, well most people think Mayweather should have a loss to his name. Castillo 1.



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Floyd has never lost. Manny has officially lost 3 times, and most people think he should have at least 5 losses against his name.

joan guzman has "0"... but has he achieved more tha barrera or morales?

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Floyd has never lost. Manny has officially lost 3 times, and most people think he should have at least 5 losses against his name.

If we're going to include controversial wins as loses, let's count fights Mayweather ducked too, in the interest of fairness. So chalk up a minimum of 2 Mayweather losses to Cotto and Margarito. That's fair.

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If we're going to include controversial wins as loses, let's count fights Mayweather ducked too, in the interest of fairness. So chalk up a minimum of 2 Mayweather losses to Cotto and Margarito. That's fair.

What about Pac's loss to Guzman or Valero?