Glen Johnson overrated?

[Spray_resistant]

He knocked him down and outboxed Judah through that whole fight. If you watch the fight with Dawson it's hard to argue that Johnson didn't win or at least get a draw. He is a solid veteran with skills and experience, I think Calzaghe and Hopkins would beat him, but he would give them a hell of a fight.

He looked his age against Judah, a lot slower and not as busy. Judah really didn't come prepared for that fight, I though Glen should have been able to put him away. I actually had Glen up by a point against Dawson, but one guy getting a decision in an extremely close fight is in no way a robbery like some say it was. The Glen that showed up against Judah doesn't get anywhere close to a win over Dawson.

[warp1432]

He knocked him down and outboxed Judah through that whole fight. If you watch the fight with Dawson it's hard to argue that Johnson didn't win or at least get a draw. He is a solid veteran with skills and experience, I think Calzaghe and Hopkins would beat him, but he would give them a hell of a fight.

Johnson has problems with movers who throw a lot of punches. That's Calzaghe.

Hopkins would easily beat him *again*

[krispy kreme]

He looked his age against Judah, a lot slower and not as busy. Judah really didn't come prepared for that fight, I though Glen should have been able to put him away. I actually had Glen up by a point against Dawson, but one guy getting a decision in an extremely close fight is in no way a robbery like some say it was. The Glen that showed up against Judah doesn't get anywhere close to a win over Dawson.

I think he could have knocked him out, regardless, he beat him thoroughly.

Johnson has problems with movers who throw a lot of punches. That's Calzaghe.

Hopkins would easily beat him *again*

Maybe so, I think he could still give them a good fight.





Point is, he is not overrated.

[The Gunner]

How? In what way does he get more hype than 99% of other fighters? You missed my point because there was none, I was asking a question.

You made a point, it was - "I don't even think he is hyped enough".

I think if you look back at my posts your questions been more than answered too.

Calling Glen overrated is insane he should be the Lh weight champ right now.

How? He never beat Calzaghe and he's not beat Hopkins who is in front of him.

in the boxing community maybe slightly cause he gets much love from us ... but personally i think most of it is well deserved ...



prob the same can be said about glen ...

I'm not overrating Hatton to beat ATG's though. Why even bring Hatton up, your the 3rd guy to do this tonight? I know Hattons limits nobody needs to tell me. Ive always been a fan though and now that he is past his best i'm not about to stop.

[MARKBNLV]

Calzaghes retired, Bernard last fought at 168 i believe ,and in my ,and a lot of other peoples opinions Glen beat Chad the reigning LH king.

[krispy kreme]

You made a point, it was - "I don't even think he is hyped enough".

I think if you look back at my posts your questions been more than answered too.

I wasn't trying to make a point, I am asking you how exactly is he overrated? This is an internet forum with over a 100,000 users that watch more than just main stream boxing, so if coarse your going to see over-the-top statements. Johnson can't even make a headline fight on HBO or Showtime anymore. He is not overrated.

[Heru]

He knocked him down and outboxed Judah through that whole fight. If you watch the fight with Dawson it's hard to argue that Johnson didn't win or at least get a draw. He is a solid veteran with skills and experience, I think Calzaghe and Hopkins would beat him, but he would give them a hell of a fight.

Do you have your scorecard nearby? Some keep saying this, but don't/won/t show a scorecard. What you said right there is ridiculous. If you know how to score, Johnson only won 3 clear rounds. You can't steal every round with a flurry at the end when you're getting hands put on you and outboxed for 2+ minutes.

in the boxing community maybe slightly cause he gets much love from us ... but personally i think most of it is well deserved ...

prob the same can be said about glen ...

With this post you explain why dude is probably saying this. He gets extra love from the the hardcore boxing fans because of his personality, he always fights hard, and (except for Tarver I) is always on the short end of the stick. If Clinton Woods has anything it's a good chin, toughness, and heart, plus fighting in front of his home adds to that so him going 36 rounds with him isn't a knock on him.

[krispy kreme]

Do you have your scorecard nearby? Some keep saying this, but don't/won/t show a scorecard. What you said right there is ridiculous. If you know how to score, Johnson only won 3 clear rounds. You can't steal every round with a flurry at the end when you're getting hands put on you and outboxed for 2+ minutes.

No, I don't. Just remembering the fight, I thought Johnson beat him, I remember he was countering and had him hurt more than once in the fight. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean it is ridiculous.

[Piggu]

If you look carefully, you'll see they are the most accurate, better than BoxRec's. They are determined by a computer.

The IBO Champions, by the way, have little to do with their ratings.

What's interesting is, they show how fighters have done against "Top 50" opponents, so we have an idea of the kind of opposition they've faced.

Really? That's pretty interesting.

[Heru]

No, I don't. Just remembering the fight, I thought Johnson beat him, I remember he was countering and had him hurt more than once in the fight. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean it is ridiculous.

It's not because yo don't agree with me, it's because you said "If you watch the fight with Dawson it's hard to argue that Johnson didn't win or at least get a draw." IMO it's hard to argue the opposite.