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  • WhoreUs
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    #41
    Originally posted by El Jesus
    that "weak ass east" smashed the lakers on route to an NBA title. Kobe has lost 2 NBA finals without shaq. You dont like soft bitches yet its ok for kobe to cry on several losing occasions? The east was alot better this year with actual contenders like orlando, boston and the cavs and atlanta. The aura of the invincible west is no more.
    dude do you even know anything about basketball?

    crazy ass black jesus.

    kobe has lost 1 without shaq.

    shaq was on the team that lost to detroit.

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    • WhoreUs
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      #42
      Originally posted by pbftxrs316
      manny and floyd are closer than lebron and kobe? yeah right....okaaaaaayyyyy. skillwiese, floyd is so much ahead of manny...you'll find that out once they square off...just wait and see...

      lebron is a great player...kobe is a living legend...lebron has improved sooooo much and his skillset is becoming all around amazing....they are close than manny and floyd are.....
      manny has the better resume and probably more physically gifted.

      floyd has the undefeated record and better skilled technically.

      it's a pick 'em. just depends on what you like.



      the only thing lebron is better than kobe at is being bigger.

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      • El Jesus
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        who votes on mvp? the media who hates kobe and loves lebron? lol

        the only reason kobe got mvp was because the media was embarassed. those dumbasses voted steve nash back to back mvp and dirk nowitzki mvp over kobe. can you believe that ****?



        more bull**** from ****** lebron supporters. lebron has had a better supporting cast than kobe pretty much 'til last year when kobe got gasol.

        before it was look at how lebron makes his teammates better. now that kobe has a better team. lebron doesn't have as good a team.

        Look i wanna debate with you, but you aint gotta come at me like that. I even agree with some of the **** you are saying, but chill with that.

        And NO, lebron has never had a better supporting cast than kobe. Odom is better than EVERYBODY on the cavs, he can do it all, defend, pass, shoot, rebound. He is an outstanding supporting player when hes not being a ****in moron. You telling me with Bynum, Farmer, Fisher, Walton, Vulacic, Odom, that somehow, that wasnt as good as Big Z, Damon Jones, Donyell Marshall etc?

        Come on man. Lebrons supporting cast has NEVER been as good as kobes, ever.

        As far as steve nash over shaq, that was straight bull****, but on the other hand, i cant start degrading the MVP, because jordan had lord knows how many and it doesnt diminish it. And this is the first time i heared that dirk somehow didnt deserve the MVP over kobe. You got anything to backup that kobe should have won it? Im willing to listen. My point is that Shaq always had an effect on kobes success overall, even now its showing, houston without ****in yao and weak azz tmac are giving the lakers all they can handle

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        • El Jesus
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          #44
          Originally posted by Mr._Pink
          dude do you even know anything about basketball?

          crazy ass black jesus.

          kobe has lost 1 without shaq.

          shaq was on the team that lost to detroit.
          i was thinking about that as i posted, but i knew it was too late to correct, i was too focused on malone and payton.

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          • WhoreUs
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            #45
            Originally posted by El Jesus
            i was thinking about that as i posted, but i knew it was too late to correct, i was too focused on malone and payton.
            i figured.

            it was a while back.

            just busting your balls.

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            • WhoreUs
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              #46
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              Look i wanna debate with you, but you aint gotta come at me like that. I even agree with some of the **** you are saying, but chill with that.

              And NO, lebron has never had a better supporting cast than kobe. Odom is better than EVERYBODY on the cavs, he can do it all, defend, pass, shoot, rebound. He is an outstanding supporting player when hes not being a ****in moron. You telling me with Bynum, Farmer, Fisher, Walton, Vulacic, Odom, that somehow, that wasnt as good as Big Z, Damon Jones, Donyell Marshall etc?

              Come on man. Lebrons supporting cast has NEVER been as good as kobes, ever.

              As far as steve nash over shaq, that was straight bull****, but on the other hand, i cant start degrading the MVP, because jordan had lord knows how many and it doesnt diminish it. And this is the first time i heared that dirk somehow didnt deserve the MVP over kobe. You got anything to backup that kobe should have won it? Im willing to listen. My point is that Shaq always had an effect on kobes success overall, even now its showing, houston without ****in yao and weak azz tmac are giving the lakers all they can handle
              lebron's teams up until the middle of last year were better than kobe's.

              remember when the lakers had kwame brown as its starting center and smush parker as its starting point guard?

              bynum didn't even play 'til last year , bj.

              farmar and sasha didn't break out 'til last year as well and one can say last year was just a fluke since they have been pretty bad this year.

              odom is skilled but his game is on and off. ask lakers fans. half of them has been asking for lamar to get traded since his 1st year here.

              there's also a reason why half of laker fans call luke walton , puke walton.

              the lakers have a lot of skills but they don't always show up or they play ****** or lazy.

              trust me. i'm a die hard lakers fan. up until the middle of last year when pau came , i'd have traded the entire lakers roster (minus kobe) for the cavs roster (minus lebron).

              ilgauskus is terribly underrated by the way.

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              • VirusTI
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                #47
                Ovechkin is better than all 4 of them, by far.

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                • PACHUGGER
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by magicjordan
                  The Great Debate: LeBron or Kobe? Pacquiao or Mayweather? Who's #1?
                  By Dennis Guillermo
                  May 15, 3:24 PM
                  At this time of the year, the sports world is buzzing primarily because of the NBA playoffs. Without a question, the two biggest and best players in basketball today are last year's MVP Kobe Bryant and this season's MVP LeBron James. But amidst the excitement and fevered pitch from basketball fans and countless debates regarding who is the best basketball player in the game right now, there is another rivalry in boxing that has the whole boxing world buzzing. Who is the better, Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

                  As far as this era's biggest match-up in NBA, nothing comes close to Kobe Bryant vs. LeBron James. Nothing else really need be said. Watching these two go at it and the excitement they generate every time they square off reminds me of the same energy fight fans were buzzing with when Manny Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton fought each other in the biggest and most watched fight of the year so far. That bout was dubbed the "The Battle of East vs. West" and as many hoops fan will tell you (even rappers like The Game as reported by our Lakers Examiner), seeing Kobe and LeBron do battle in the NBA Finals IS “THE BATTLE OF EAST VS. WEST”

                  LeBron and Pacquiao currently hold the crown that Mayweather Jr. and Bryant not too long ago held so fittingly. LeBron can do it all, and so can Pacquiao. But Mayweather and Bryant both possess that smooth mastery of their sport only seen once in a few decades. LeBron and Pacquiao are physical freaks of nature, but Bryan and Mayweather have always been cerebrally ahead of the competition. Now who really is the best? Who’s the MVP? Who’s the real pound for pound king?
                  Allow me to break both comparisons down as fundamentally as I can.

                  EXPERIENCE:

                  Manny Pacquiao is 30 years old and started his pro career at a tender age of 16 years old in his hometown in the Philippines. He has a record of 49 wins (KO 37)/ 3 losses (KO 2) / 2 draws and has boxed 293 rounds with a KO percentage of 68.52%. Floy Mayweather Jr. on the other hand is 32 years old with a perfect record of 39 wins (KO 25) / no losses and no draws and has boxed 275 rounds total with a KO percentage of 64.1%. Pacquiao has had wars with more legends in the sport than Mayweather Jr. however after his classic fights with Morales, Marquez, Barrera, Hatton and De la Hoya to name a few. Other than Hatton and De la Hoya, the only stiff competition Mayweather has really faced inside the ring would be the smaller Diego Coralles. Pacquiao on his part has always moved up in weight to fight better competition. With that said, I have to give Pacquiao the edge in this category.

                  Kobe Bryant is a seasoned vet. He brings a whole lot more experience to the table than LeBron does obviously because LeBron is only 24 and has only been in the league for 6 seasons after coming straight from high school. Kobe is 30 years old and has been in the league for 13 seasons. So when it comes to experience, Kobe has the edge.

                  SKILL:

                  Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a crafty fighter and has mastered the art of slick boxing his defense is second to none. Sometimes however, he’s so much better than the competition that he tends to let fights drag on by playing with his opponents and prioritize not getting hit instead of going for the kill. Pacquiao at 30 is still improving. He is a rare athlete that has continued to elevate his game even at a late age and being in his prime. Ever since he broke through the global boxing scene, he has added more weapons to his arsenal. He was once merely known as a double-jab left cross fighter but now possesses power and great technique in both hands. Floyd’s overall natural skill and savvy for the sweet science is still too hard to look past so I will give Floyd the edge here.

                  Kobe has been in the game longer than LeBron and definitely knows a lot more tricks of the trade than the young MVP from Akron, Ohio. Offensively, Kobe has a more complete arsenal than LeBron but in terms of skill set, LeBron does more things consistently and effectively more than Kobe. LeBron is a walking triple double and a nightmare to defend because he is not only strong and can jump outside the building, he also sees the floor very well and can dish to an open teammate at any given second. I would have to give the edge to LeBron on this one.
                  Good read!

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                  • freestyler
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                    #49
                    Amp..

                    Lebron at Pacquiao mahusay din naman si kobe kaya lang parang may kulang pa sa laro niya pero parihas naman clang sugapa haha.. C mayweather naman magaling din mahusay umilag ewan ko lang kung mailagan nya suntok ni pakyaw haha..

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