Is ODLH and Felix Trinidad ATG's?

[Chr0nic]

just curious as to what the board thinks
im a bit skeptical on the two, esspecially oscar

[strugler]

Oscar....NO........Tito.......Most definitely.............

[Mary Jane]

Yes on both.

[KILLA RIGHT]

oscar....no........tito.......most definitely.............

agreed i can fight the best as long as i get paid to beat them is another thing.anyone would fight the best if they got paid what oscar did

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Both are for me.

Tito is something around 69-77 and Oscar is something like 88-96

[Chr0nic]

agreed i can fight the best as long as i get paid to beat them is another thing.anyone would fight the best if they got paid what oscar did

co-sign....

[hookoutofhell]

if oscar had won one of his big fights that was reaonably winnable (i.e. mosley, tito, floyd) he would be an ATG. he had a very good resume with chavez, sweeet pea, mayorga, vargas all he needed was one of the above to cement his status as an ATG. OSCAR = HOF

tito im not sure - he didn't face the same comp as oscar so you have to bear in mind that he is going to have less losses on his resume. like oscar he has good wins over solid comp like vargas, pineda, camacho, sweet pea of course has another win over another HOF'er who was in his prime at the time with DLH. so he definently stands up to the HOF test but ATG??

no i dont think so - to be an ATG you need 1 of three things:
1) wins over good comp outside your weight class
2) several wins over HOF or equivalent fighters
3) dominate a weight division with respectable comp,

tito's losses to hopkins/wright and his lack of desire in training cost him here. he could have been an ATG but hes not.

both fighters are HOF'er but neither is an ATG like mosley, lennox lewis, calzaghe, mayweather, RJJ, lennox lewis,

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

if oscar had won one of his big fights that was reaonably winnable (i.e. mosley, tito, floyd) he would be an ATG. he had a very good resume with chavez, sweeet pea, mayorga, vargas all he needed was one of the above to cement his status as an ATG. OSCAR = HOF

tito im not sure - he didn't face the same comp as oscar so you have to bear in mind that he is going to have less losses on his resume. like oscar he has good wins over solid comp like vargas, pineda, camacho, sweet pea of course has another win over another HOF'er who was in his prime at the time with DLH. so he definently stands up to the HOF test but ATG??

no i dont think so - to be an ATG you need 1 of three things:
1) wins over good comp outside your weight class
2) several wins over HOF or equivalent fighters
3) dominate a weight division with respectable comp,

tito's losses to hopkins/wright and his lack of desire in training cost him here. he could have been an ATG but hes not.

both fighters are HOF'er but neither is an ATG like mosley, lennox lewis, calzaghe, mayweather, RJJ, lennox lewis,

What you talking bout tito also has a win over vargas and was the first one to beat vargas and ruined him he has a win over a younger camacho also and tito had camacho holding all fight has a decisive win over whitaker beat undefeated reid and knocked out ex middleweight champ william joppy

[Parody]

Both of them are ATG's but I have Trinidad higher.

Oscar fought the better competition no doubt, but its about who you beat.

Trinidad beat up fighters, and then Oscar beat them again after Trinidad was already done with them (Vargas, Mayorga, Camacho, Campas, Carr). Trinidad has three losses to ATG's in Hopkins, Wright and Jones Jr, and Trinidad won the decision in their fight according to the judges scorecards (Oscar obviously won the fight, but in the records Trinidad will always have a W over him)