What made Henry Armstrong #3 ATG on most lists?

[-EX-]

what? you like guys that jab with their forehead?

[S.G.]

he beat ceferino at welterweight. ceferino then won the middleweight belt afterwards and henry challenged him for it.

i thought ceferino won that fight? was it draw? either way ceferino kept his belt and henry didn't win a middleweight title.

let me refresh my memory. i'll look it up.

yeah was a draw. officially at least

i think a lot of people thought garcia deserved the nod though

[dans]

I'm 23 years old. I've seen tapes of Armstrong and he appeared to be special fighter with amazing stamina and speed. I don't truly know how great he was so I can't say if he's underrated or overrated. All I can say is that if he was good enough to be #3 all time on people's lists, I'm guessing he was an amazing fighter.

Manny has a ways to go.

[Verstyle]

never saw a single fight of his, dont even know what he looks like
and what do you mean possibly? i could watch his fights and read his interviews and be as knowledgable on him as you or anyone else
you dont gotta be from back then to know what happened nowadays

This is true, doubt anyone one on here has seen him fight in his prime.

[Chups]

So why is Pac rated way below Armstrong if the achievements are almost the same?

You know why? Because it's not 50 years later yet.

[Chr0nic]

You know why? Because it's not 50 years later yet.

fighter of the past are overrated

[Walt Liquor]

Probably because he had one of the best nicknames EVER in boxing, by far.

That makes him at least top 10.

Plus beating Cerefino Garcia, Fritzie Zivic, Barney Ross, and Lou Ambers off the top don't hurt.

You keep getting owned on these old fighters conversations then starting up other threads. Wait till the Manchine finds out!

[wizard king]

pac will never be in front of armstrong it is diffcult to beat fighters of back then because of two reason 1 they fought more 2 they fought more rounds. the ice on the cake would be their accomplishments.that alone fighters of today would not be able to match. nowadays youre lucky if a fighter fights 3 times a year. to me if they werent boxing in the era of 15rds or more you better have accomplish some serious goals to be able to compete but thats just me.

[Chups]

fighter of the past are overrated

You can say that to current fighters too.

[AntonTheMeh]

at one point in boxing history, armstrong nearly held half of the boxing titles(in the original 8 divisions, and when there was only one belt per division)
featherweight,lightweight,welterweight, and was robbed of his middleweight title.
manny pacquiao won the jr welterweight ring championship.had he beaten marquez at lightweight to take the ring belt, then taken hatton's, than beat the cotto mosley winner at 147 for THEIR ring belt, he would have surpassed him.
he would easily be p4p number 1 in my book.still, if he beats floyd, he'll be that anyway(p4p number 1 all time), so his way of going about is cool too.