KO is better than a TKO???

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  • araindon
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    #11
    Yeah that's right. If a fight is stopped by a ref and the fighter who got TKO'd can act ****** and say they were fine even though they were taking so many clean shots! With KO it is undisputed and Hatton got KTFO so it doesn't make much difference ha ha.

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    • gopi11
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      #12
      Originally posted by dog1dog2
      This is correct. The Pac / Hatton fight end was unquestionably ended via TKO and not by KO in the semantic, official scoring sense. A "KO" only officially occurs when you are given and fail to rise for a full 10-count.

      As stated above, neither are really any better than the other. They are equally meaningful.

      I beg to disagree dog, unless the TKO we're talking about was the one that Pacman gave to Hatton. How many times have we seen refs stopping fights prematurely? I was so sick seeing these kind of premature stoppages, and there's a bunch of them that I can't even recall one, wait, here's some:

      Manfredo/Calzaghe comes to mind, a heavyweight fight I saw got stopped in the 1st round and I can't recall the both boxers' names, and a couple of Gamboa fights I believe, and bunch of others, feel free to add guys...

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      • bishop2006
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        #13
        Originally posted by gopi11
        I remember Vic Darchinyan made a big fuzz about the "TKO" win he got on his record against Nonito's brother, Glenn Donaire. He even promised to KO Nonito as a payback because his bro quit and got a TKO instead of a KO.

        So KO is better than a TKO, right?

        Which brings me to this...

        Michael Buffer said that Pacman won via a 2nd round TKO against Ricky Hatton. Ref Bayless didn't even bother to count and waived off the bout. Was it really a TKO win for Pacman? Or a KO win like what BoxRec says?
        Nope,its officialy been counted as a KO,they say the ref needs to count to 10,but Kenny didnt need to,he needed to get the docters in,i read in a boxing mag the state commition still counted it as a KO,because Hatton wasnt getting up

        And i think your wrong about the Vic fight,the fight with Glenn Donaire was a TD,not TKO,Donaire got hit with a punch,but like a ***** cheated and said he got butted on his chin,which broke his jaw,which didnt happen at all,the ref agreed and said it was a butt and they had to stop the fight,it went to the scorecards,Vic was angry it didnt get counted as a TKO win,instead it got counted as a TD
        Last edited by bishop2006; 05-14-2009, 08:45 AM.

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        • araindon
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          #14
          Originally posted by gopi11
          I beg to disagree dog, unless the TKO we're talking about was the one that Pacman gave to Hatton. How many times have we seen refs stopping fights prematurely? I was so sick seeing these kind of premature stoppages, and there's a bunch of them that I can't even recall one, wait, here's some:

          Manfredo/Calzaghe comes to mind, a heavyweight fight I saw got stopped in the 1st round and I can't recall the both boxers' names, and a couple of Gamboa fights I believe, and bunch of others, feel free to add guys...
          You talking about the David Tua fight in 2000? A lot of people thought Rafa Vs Izzy 2 was premature, I thought Rafael should have got the benefit of the doubt seeing as he was the title holder.

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          • gopi11
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            #15
            Originally posted by bishop2006
            Nope,its officialy been counted as a KO,they say the ref needs to count to 10,but Kenny didnt need to,he needed to get the docters in,i read in a boxing mag the state commition still counted it as a KO,because Hatton wasnt getting up

            And i think your wrong about the Vic fight,the fight with Glenn Donaire was a TD,not TKO,Donaire got hit with a punch,but like a ***** cheated and said he got butted on his chin,which broke his jaw,which didnt happen at all,the ref agreed and said it was a butt and they had to stop the fight,it went to the scorecards,Vic was angry it didnt get counted as a TKO win,instead it got counted as a TD

            My bad... It was a Technical Decision, and what mag was that?

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            • 537Bwouaye
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              Nah, it's a TKO... I don't care what the doctors or anyone is saying, it's the basic rules of boxing, if the ref stops it without counting, it's a TKO.

              To answer the main topic, TKO is BOTH better and worst than a KO.
              Take Gamboa as an example:
              His fight vs Rojas, TKO < KO.
              His fight vs Seeger TKO > KO.

              Some times a TKO means that you punched the other dude so hard that it would be dangerous for the ref to count before bringing the doctors. Some other times a TKO only means that a fighter sucks and is taking too much punishment and the ref just stops it, that's the weak form of TKO.

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              • KnockoutTheFat
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                #17
                **** yeah a KO is better than a TKO!

                You think the video game "George Foreman's KO Boxing" would sell if it were re-packaged as "George Foreman's TKO Boxing"?

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by gopi11
                  I remember Vic Darchinyan made a big fuzz about the "TKO" win he got on his record against Nonito's brother, Glenn Donaire. He even promised to KO Nonito as a payback because his bro quit and got a TKO instead of a KO.

                  So KO is better than a TKO, right?

                  Which brings me to this...

                  Michael Buffer said that Pacman won via a 2nd round TKO against Ricky Hatton. Ref Bayless didn't even bother to count and waived off the bout. Was it really a TKO win for Pacman? Or a KO win like what BoxRec says?
                  technically it was a tKO, but in reality it was a KO, and on youtube its a KTFO.

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                  • gopi11
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    technically it was a tKO, but in reality it was a KO, and on youtube its a KTFO.

                    It's KTFO in the other boxing forums too! LMAO!

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                    • ThunderWolf
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                      #20
                      I think they should update the rules, and make the referee decide if it is a KO or Technically a KO. A TKO is too bookish, the fact that the count doesn`t start or end at 10 is automatically a TKO is not realistic.

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