Having a debate with "Strugler." Do Fighters gain weight by Fight-time?

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #1

    Having a debate with "Strugler." Do Fighters gain weight by Fight-time?

    Strugler seems to think that the "official-weight" is the only thing that matters and basically it is a "proper representation" of the fighter's actual weight.

    So, do fighters gain weight or not by fight-time and if they do, how do you know?
    Are you going by HBO and Showtime scales and if you are, how reliable would you say they are?


    For me, I used this example:

    Benny Leonard: So I'm not to believe what Roach says Pac weighs? When he says his ideal weight for Manny to come in by fight-night is 147, and then shows up at 147 or around it (since he weighed 148 with Hatton; 147 for Diaz on the unofficial scales/HBO)...that doesn't prove anything?
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    Yes, Fighters tend to gain weight by fight-time. HBO/Showtime scales are accurate
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    No, they don't tend to gain weight by fight-time; Fight-time weight doesn't matter; not accurate
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    #2
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    Strugler seems to think that the "official-weight" is the only thing that matters and basically it is a "proper representation" of the fighter's actual weight.

    So, do fighters gain weight or not by fight-time and if they do, how do you know?
    Are you going by HBO and Showtime scales and if you are, how reliable would you say they are?


    For me, I used this example:


    WTF...............................ofcourse they do.................and HBO and Showtime weights..................lack the proper representation...........that i stand by.............

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    • wmute
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      #3
      Go ask Joey Gamache what he thinks about that.

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      • The Surgeon
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        #4
        Originally posted by wmute
        Go ask Joey Gamache what he thinks about that.
        Lol that boy got Pancaked! What did Gatti gain, like 21 lbs???

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        • QUISQUEYA
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          #5
          Originally posted by strugler
          WTF...............................ofcourse they do.................and HBO and Showtime weights..................lack the proper representation...........that i stand by.............
          1) Hatton has said that he weighs "about eleven stone" in the ring. HBO scales have had him at 152-154.

          2) Roach said Pacquiao "gained about fifteen pounds" after weighing in at 130. HBO had him at 144.

          They are clearly accurate. And corroborated by the fighters themselves.

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          • syphillis
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            #6
            Noob question. Is there a rule in the boxing book that restricts the number of lbs a fighter can gain after the weigh in?

            My understanding is that it only matters that both fighters be on or below the agreed weight during the weigh in. This evens out the playing field, doesn't it? So the advantage would only be on the physical aspect in the fighter being able to hydrate properly. And most of them do. If not, then tough luck you've already lost half the battle and it's not the other guys fault.

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            • Burner
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              #7
              If two WW's weigh in at 147.............

              And one of theose welters is Andre Berto and he weighs 170 pounds...

              Is that not an advantage....

              Its not a rule but it plays apart in the fight..dont be silly.

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              • THE REED
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                #8
                Originally posted by strugler
                WTF...............................ofcourse they do.................and HBO and Showtime weights..................lack the proper representation...........that i stand by.............
                really......................................... are you sure......................................... hang on let me think.................................... still thinking.................................

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                • QUISQUEYA
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by syphillis
                  Noob question. Is there a rule in the boxing book that restricts the number of lbs a fighter can gain after the weigh in?

                  My understanding is that it only matters that both fighters be on or below the agreed weight during the weigh in. This evens out the playing field, doesn't it? So the advantage would only be on the physical aspect in the fighter being able to hydrate properly. And most of them do. If not, then tough luck you've already lost half the battle and it's not the other guys fault.

                  The WBC has a 30 day weigh-in that requires that you be within 10% of the contracted weight. That is to protect fighters' health by preventing fight-week crash-dieting.

                  But guys just sweat down to make that 10%. They get on the scale after a sparring session.

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                  • -Swizzy-
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    Strugler seems to think that the "official-weight" is the only thing that matters and basically it is a "proper representation" of the fighter's actual weight.

                    So, do fighters gain weight or not by fight-time and if they do, how do you know?
                    Are you going by HBO and Showtime scales and if you are, how reliable would you say they are?


                    For me, I used this example:
                    yes, all fighters except for mayweather. check sig.

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