Hopkins vs Dawson, who you picking?

[slicksouthpaw16]

exactly the reason it would make it more impressive. BTW, he has underrated power - he knocked down calzaghe and tarver and nearly KO'd pavlik, but pavlik is a tough son of a ***** and has a much better chin than dawson.

LOL i know what you mean but to say he nearly knocked out Pavlik is kinda exaggerating. He had stiffened Kelly's legs in that second round with the left hookercut, but outside of that Kelly was never close to going down. Also, that fight was at light heavyweight. I seen Tarver land some hard punches on Dawson Saturday and i didn't see him buckle at all. I think he has one of the chins that's shaky when hes not expecting the punch but he can take the ones he sees and with his reflexes and awareness, he could see them coming against Hopkins or elude them.

And while Bernard hurt these fighters, he didn't attempt to go after neither one of them( he did with Tarver momentarily though but then backed off). If he was too catch Dawson with a shot that he didn't see, Dawson would get back up and continue to out work him.

[street bully]

LOL i know what you mean but to say he nearly knocked out Pavlik is kinda exaggerating. He had stiffened Kelly's legs in that second round with the left hookercut, but outside of that Kelly was never close to going down. Also, that fight was at light heavyweight. I seen Tarver land some hard punches on Dawson Saturday and i didn't see him buckle at all. I think he has one of the chins that's shaky when hes not expecting the punch but he can take the ones he sees and with his reflexes and awareness, he could see them coming against Hopkins or elude them.

And while Bernard hurt these fighters, he didn't attempt to go after neither one of them( he did with Tarver momentarily though but then backed off). If he was too catch Dawson with a shot that he didn't see, Dawson would get back up and continue to out work him.

I saw Dawson get buckled in the Tarver fight. Can't remember which round, but his knees definitely dipped.

[Pugilistic™]

LOL i know what you mean but to say he nearly knocked out Pavlik is kinda exaggerating. He had stiffened Kelly's legs in that second round with the left hookercut, but outside of that Kelly was never close to going down. Also, that fight was at light heavyweight. I seen Tarver land some hard punches on Dawson Saturday and i didn't see him buckle at all. I think he has one of the chins that's shaky when hes not expecting the punch but he can take the ones he sees and with his reflexes and awareness, he could see them coming against Hopkins or elude them.

And while Bernard hurt these fighters, he didn't attempt to go after neither one of them( he did with Tarver momentarily though but then backed off). If he was too catch Dawson with a shot that he didn't see, Dawson would get back up and continue to out work him.

Dawson does have a good workrate but does appear to lose focus on the gameplan and likes to take few rounds off in fights which would favor Hopkins big time. If you give Hopkins oppurtunities to rest you are decreasing your chances of winning. Calzaghe beat Hopkins with non stop pressure and punching. I doubt Dawson could do what Joe did to Hopkins.

[Boxingwizard]

lol at people picking Hopkins to beat Dawson are delusional, Dawson would be the most skilled fighter Hopkins has fought since Calzaghe. Dawson isn't Pavlik or Taylor he's much better than both. With good skills and fundamentals, he will either outwork Hopkins to a UD or pummel to a TKO.

Hopkins doesn't have the workrate or stamina to stop Dawson from throwing.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I saw Dawson get buckled in the Tarver fight. Can't remember which round, but his knees definitely dipped.

That was round 7 when Lampley claimed Dawson's right legged buckled. I just re watched the fight and Dawson was just trying to get out the way. He did that same thing with Johnson in the third round of their fight. When he got countered by Johnson's right hand followed by the left hook, he dipped low to get out of the way of the following punches. He always does that.

[Boxingwizard]

I actually think hopkins would possibly even KO chad. Chad has a shaky chin and like someone else pointed out, he doesn't like angles. He also fades late. He starts nice though, chad would probably win 2 out of the first 4 rounds on activity, nice looking (mostly blocked) combo's. He fights too much in spurts, Bhop would rough him up and catch him with that overhand right over and over. I think chad would fade hard because hops would make it a rough fight for him and eventually hops takes him out.

If not a UD for bhop

Dawson isn't Tarver, he won't be weight drained. I really hope this fight doesn't come off, I'd rather see Dawson/Johnson II though.

[ßringer]

lol at people picking Hopkins to beat Dawson are delusional, Dawson would be the most skilled fighter Hopkins has fought since Calzaghe. Dawson isn't Pavlik or Taylor he's much better than both. With good skills and fundamentals, he will either outwork Hopkins to a UD or pummel to a TKO.

Hopkins doesn't have the workrate or stamina to stop Dawson from throwing.

You said this just yesterday.

To which I responded with this........

Didn't you originally say this about Kelly?

4 years ago Hopkins would win UD. But at age 43 Pavlik is too much for him, Pavlik will knock him out.

So what? He was good enough for you then, but not now that Hopkins schooled the piss out of him?

[STILL_DETOX]

dawson is just an ordinary fighter to me, he will just be another antonio tarver for hopkins

[Iceta]

Hop finishes the job that the road warrior started and shatters that glass jaw.

[Boxingwizard]

You said this just yesterday.

To which I responded with this........

Didn't you originally say this about Kelly?



So what? He was good enough for you then, but not now that Hopkins schooled the piss out of him?

Yeah I did pick Pavlik to beat Hopkins and I was wrong. But you have to remember Dawson is way faster than Pavlik. Dawson wasn't all that spectacular against Tarver, but Tarver fought much better and Dawson still did enough to win convincingly. I'm surprised Dawson was even motivated to fight a good fight. Against Hopkins, Dawson would be much more motivated and fix a lot of his flaws against a crafty veteran. I think this fight is pointless because Hopkins is 44, and Glen Johnson is still available, but boxing is more about money than pride. So we'll see if this fight comes off.